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    Dear Friends,

    As per OM NO 19024/1/2009/E.IV dated 13.07.2009, in all cases of air travel, both dom & international where Gov of India bears the cost of air passage, the official concern may travel only by AIR India. If is it so, if the non entitled officer who traveled by other airways claim can be restricted to his entitlement while availing LTC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRD Fernandez View Post
    Dear Friends,

    As per OM NO 19024/1/2009/E.IV dated 13.07.2009, in all cases of air travel, both dom & international where Gov of India bears the cost of air passage, the official concern may travel only by AIR India. If is it so, if the non entitled officer who traveled by other airways claim can be restricted to his entitlement while availing LTC?
    Dear friends,
    This is an interesting question/query. But, before going further, the same question can be raised in the case of officers who are entitled to Air Travel,too. Supposing the officer who is entitled to LTC by Air, uses other Airlines (say, Jet) and claims only the amount applicable to AC I class (his entitled class for Train Journey) would that be given? If this can be given, the answer to the query under study would be affirmative. If this can not be given, then the answer to the query under study would be "No".

    With regards,
    Badri

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    Quote Originally Posted by badri mannargudi View Post
    Dear friends,
    This is an interesting question/query. But, before going further, the same question can be raised in the case of officers who are entitled to Air Travel,too. Supposing the officer who is entitled to LTC by Air, uses other Airlines (say, Jet) and claims only the amount applicable to AC I class (his entitled class for Train Journey) would that be given? If this can be given, the answer to the query under study would be affirmative. If this can not be given, then the answer to the query under study would be "No".

    With regards,
    Badri
    Words used in the of OM are reproduced below..

    "No.3lOII/2/2006-Est1.(A)
    Government ofIndia
    Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances & Pension
    Department of Personnel & Training
    Subject:- Regulation of Journey by air while availing Leave Travel Concession
    - clarification regarding.
    The undersigned is directed to refer to Ministry of Finance, Department of Expenditure
    O.M.No. I9024/1/2009-E.lV dated 13/7/2009 modifying the O.M. No. 7(2)/E.Coord/2005
    dated 23rd November, 2005 and superseding ofO.M.No. I9024/l/E.lV/2005 dated 24/3/2006. It
    has been decided by the Department of Expenditure that in all cases of air travel both domestic
    and international where the Government of India bears the cost of air passage, the officials
    concerned may travel only by air India.
    The matter whether these orders will apply in cases of
    LTC has been considered in consultation with Ministry of Finance, Department of expenditure
    and it is confirmed that these orders/conditions will apply in cases of LTC also."


    So, personally believe it is applicable to ALL (entitled to travel by Air or Not), because 'Govt. of India bears the cost of air passage'. LTC claims, using Pvt. Airlines, may get rejected, I feel.

    Interesting query however. I also would like to know any further clarification (OM) issued on this matter.


    Madhavan S
    28th Oct 09

    Madhavan S
    Last edited by madhavan73; 28-10-2009 at 11:07 AM. Reason: gramatical error correction

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    Sirs,

    In my opinion, the admissibility of air travel by airlines other than Indian Airlines, is there in view of the fact that Ministry's OM No.31011/4/2007-Estt.(A) dated 02.05.2008 whereby the Under Secy. to GOI has conveyed the directions to the effect that in relaxation of CCS(LTC) Rules, 1988, the Govt. has decided to permit Govt. Servants to travel by air to NER on LTC. These orders shall be in operation for a period of two years from the date of issue of the O.M.

    Further the Ministry vide OM No.31011/4/2007-Estt.(A) dated 14.05.2008 has clarified at point no.3 (reg. whether a Govt. servant can travel by a private airline) that DOPT vide OM dated 24.04.06 has allowed the LTC journey by private airlines subject to the condition laid down in Deptt. of Expenditure OM dated 24.03.06 regarding air travel by govt. officials during official visits. However, in the case of visit to NER in terms of O.M. dated 02.05.08, full fare will be admissible to the employees indicated therein.

    Thus, in view of the above, it appears from the wording of OM dated 14.05.08, that the DOPT OM dated 24.04.06 (which has not been modified or withdrawn till date) allows the journey by private airlines during LTC visits.

    These are my views. the same may please be confirmed or modified suitably at [email protected].

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    Default Pvt Air for non entitled officers allowed.

    Travel by Pvt air is allowed for non entitled officers , but it shall be restricted to entitled rail fare as per DOPT order 11th march 2010.
    question is for NER order which is valid up to 2nd may 2010, all are eligible for Air from Kolkata.
    so can it(travel by pvt air ) still be applied for non entitled officers ( GP less than 5400)

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    Quote Originally Posted by haringp View Post
    Travel by Pvt air is allowed for non entitled officers , but it shall be restricted to entitled rail fare as per DOPT order 11th march 2010.
    question is for NER order which is valid up to 2nd may 2010, all are eligible for Air from Kolkata.
    so can it(travel by pvt air ) still be applied for non entitled officers ( GP less than 5400)
    whether you have got any information regarding reimbursement of fare for those persons drawing GP of less than Rs. 5400/- and travel direct from their place of posting to north east by air through air india. how their reimbursement is to be made.

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    Rule is quite clear(.) a non entitled officer can travel by any air lines but his claim be restricted to the train fare for that sector(.) for entitled officer it is necessary to travel by air india only alternatively his claim shall also be rectricted to train fare

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKPATHAK View Post
    Rule is quite clear(.) a non entitled officer can travel by any air lines but his claim be restricted to the train fare for that sector(.) for entitled officer it is necessary to travel by air india only alternatively his claim shall also be rectricted to train fare

    sir, in case of travel to north east all officials are eligible to trave by air although partially. hence doubts are creating in mind. when a person of group-C & D is eligible to travel by air( partially) , how he can be considered non-eligible to travel by air.

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    Default Ltc to north east

    Let me clear the basic ltc rule(.) ltc rule clearly say the journey should be performed by shortest route(.) in north east sector, it allowed to perform the journey by air(.) following states which form part of north eastern sector,viz assam, meghalaya, manipur, nagaland, tripura, arunachal pradesh, mizorum and sikkim(.) from delhi, jopurney to sikkim is shortest if it is perfomed directly from delhi, instead via kolkata(.) therefore a group c & d employee posted in delhi should travel by train between delhi and new jalpaiguri and not via kolkata(.) to visit assam, meghalalaya and arunachal pradesh one has to go to guwahati by train(.) and then travel by air(.) person intending to visit tripura, mizorum, manipur and nagaland can travel from delhi to kolkata by train and from kolkata they may choose the desitation by air(.) however before performing your journey better consult the ddo in your office, since he is the best judge

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRD Fernandez View Post
    Dear Friends,

    As per OM NO 19024/1/2009/E.IV dated 13.07.2009, in all cases of air travel, both dom & international where Gov of India bears the cost of air passage, the official concern may travel only by AIR India. If is it so, if the non entitled officer who traveled by other airways claim can be restricted to his entitlement while availing LTC?
    Kindly refer to OM dated 11th March 2010 available at (http://persmin.gov.in/WriteReadData/...-Estt.(A)1.pdf). As per this OM restriction to travel only by Air India on LTC will not apply in the case of non-entitled officers. The claim in such cases would be restricted to entitled class of rail.

    Victor

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    Default Kindly refer to OM dated 11th March 2010 available.

    Victor Sir,
    can you clarify further in this regard. Whether claim should be restricted to Normal fare or Rajdhani/ Shatabdi fare if rajdhani/Shatabdi is running on the said route e.g. DELHI -KOLKATA etc.
    And in case, rajdhani fare can be allowed in such cases, whether it is necessary that rajdhani is running on the days on which individual has undertaken the journey.

    Thanks and regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakeshkr579 View Post
    Victor Sir,
    can you clarify further in this regard. Whether claim should be restricted to Normal fare or Rajdhani/ Shatabdi fare if rajdhani/Shatabdi is running on the said route e.g. DELHI -KOLKATA etc.
    And in case, rajdhani fare can be allowed in such cases, whether it is necessary that rajdhani is running on the days on which individual has undertaken the journey.

    Thanks and regards
    Please refer to Clarification No. 1 of DOPT OM dated 3rd December 2007 (http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/Cir...06-Estt(A).pdf).

    There is NO such condition that Rajdhani/Shatabdi should be running on the day air travel was performed.

    Victor

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