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    Govt orders on Child Care Leave do not take into account cases where a male Govt servant, who is a widower, has to take care of minor children. It would be discriminatory to deny him similar facilities. Again, for working couples, home making is a joint responsibility and it is not correct to suggest that only the woman has to take care of the responsibilities of rearing up children even when they are grown up and are in school.Ideally, the facility should be extended to both and it should be left to the couple to decide who will avail of the leave when.

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    You are correct. Child care leave must be extended to male employees also. If paternity leave can be granted like the maternity leave, Father is also supposed to be equally responsible for looking after his children.

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    then who will work in offices. 50% of staff will remain on leave. no government can satisfy every one. your objection though geniune, is not feasible.

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    I think this is one of the most preposterous decisions yet !!! Granting 730 days leave in addition to maternity leave plus normal EL/HPL/CL would entitle a newcomer who delivers a child within few weeks of joining to something like 3 to 4 years of paid leave, without doing anything ! The best thing would be when she decides to leave the govt. soon after ! God save the depts. having more women employees ! ALso, this does not affect their promotions...WOW !!! poor male emloyees....
    What about senior women emloyees ? They too, would have spent their leave in looking after their children. Why deny them this Right ?
    If this facility albeit to a limited extent is given to male employees, too, in line with Paternity leave...then Balle, balle !!!

    Govt offices will rock !

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    In fact, I agree with Srinivas. I only wanted to show that the wisdom in introducing this Leave should have been extended to other similarly placed employees, or even worse-placed ones as in the case of widowers. Government has tried to be overzealous in proving its concern for the women employees but as a matter of fact, has ended up suggesting that it matters little whether women employees really come to office - in the case of the majority, who cares whether they habitually come late or leave early or do not come at all. It is just being regularised now. How else would one justify grant of leave to a woman employee (and not her husband) on the gound that her son/daughter has to take, say the +2 Board exam ? My point was that if the Government has a reason, then it applies to the others as well who may be more deserving ! But the Government seems to think that women employees have their primary role in homes and the office should not expect much from them. Women should find this insulting.

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    IMHE, people who take/accept responsibility [male/female]continue to toil in Govt' service. people who don't, go Scot free. anyhow, (except for a few unfortunate souls), people who intend to take this long leave might not be missed much. most probably, there may be some 'smilingmouth' person available to carry on the excess burden. In my Dept, i guess there must be at least 50% women employees. The latest recruitment happened more than 12 years ago, and it is more likely they might be having their kids aged any where from 10 yrs. to 5 yrs. Hence lady colleagues who have their kids less than 18 might be 20%-30% of them. This back of the envelope calculation shows that only 10%-15% of the total employees are eligible for this extended leave, which might not burn an alarming hole in the work burden. correct me if i am wrong. btw, is there any official way of checking the above facts?-reg, rex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aakk1809 View Post
    Govt orders on Child Care Leave do not take into account cases where a male Govt servant, who is a widower, has to take care of minor children. It would be discriminatory to deny him similar facilities. Again, for working couples, home making is a joint responsibility and it is not correct to suggest that only the woman has to take care of the responsibilities of rearing up children even when they are grown up and are in school.Ideally, the facility should be extended to both and it should be left to the couple to decide who will avail of the leave when.
    Yes please. I fully agree with Shri Jitendrajee and thanks for his positive approach. Initially, the thread started with Shri AAKK's query but got diverted midway. As there are so many other important issues like minimum pay in the higher pay band , pay fixation among scales merged in the case of promotees, and max. qualifying service, minimum pay in the pay band corresponding to pre-revised scale, etc. in respect of Pensioners, Modified ACP Scheme, LTC to NER by fresh recruits, etc., we may better focus our attention on such issues as time will lapse in getting quick response from the concerned authorities. Our continued attempt for common interest of all employees whether serving or retired, will achieve the desired results at some point of time.

    Best Regards.

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    child care leave should be leave without pay because employees are taking undue advantage. they are taking child care leave for a long stretch, for about five to ten months just to enjoy child care leave as thier child is about to complete 18 years. some employees are enjoying ccl for thier medical problems to save medical leave. some employees are joining other private offices, there by getting salary from thier govt. offices and at the same time from new private office. Some employees are involved in private buisness . Govt. has granted ccl for the needy employees having no ELwhen thier child is sick or having examination but the employees are enjoying it for thier own interest.
    When some one is taking EL she is giving away one day salary (not getting salary for that day, where as those who are availing CCL for 730 days they are getting pay without work. It seems punishment to those employees who have worked in the office there by accumulated EL( not getting CCL),but reward to those employees who have enjoyed EL, not given service to the governmet, still rewarded with 730 days CCL with pay. It means they are earning salary for 730 days withot work. it is very strange that who is accumulating 300 days erned leave by working is getting pay for 300 days only.

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    Let me explain the rationale behind of child care leave many of you are not aware that in order to encourage breast feeding it was recommendations of unicef that maternity leave be for two years(.) many countries have accepted this and leave being granted considering the need and requirement(.) workers in many countries work considering it a mission(.) however in india to develop vote bank, politicians (great intellectuals) granted a bonanza for the women employee and it is an attemt to make them shirk work

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKPATHAK View Post
    Let me explain the rationale behind of child care leave many of you are not aware that in order to encourage breast feeding it was recommendations of unicef that maternity leave be for two years(.) many countries have accepted this and leave being granted considering the need and requirement(.) workers in many countries work considering it a mission(.) however in india to develop vote bank, politicians (great intellectuals) granted a bonanza for the women employee and it is an attemt to make them shirk work
    Sir,

    If it is so the ccl should have been allowed till the age of the child is 1 0r 2 years and not upto 18 years

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    Senior Member RKPATHAK is an unknown quantity at this point
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    I ALREADY POINTED OUT THAT IN INDIA VOTE BANK IS SUPREME AND THE POLITICAL LEADERS IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THEIR VOTE BANK TRY TO PLEASE ONE SECTION OF SOCIETY, i.e. WOMEN WORKING IN GOVERNMENT ORGANISATIONS(.) FOR POLITICIANS LET THE COUNTRY TO GO TO HELL(.) DUE TO CHILD CARE LEAVE MANY WOMEN EMPLOYESS WHO HAVE GROWN UP CHILDREN PROCEEDED ON LEAVE SINCE IT IS BONANZA FOR THEM

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