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    Junior Member R.K.Ahuja is on a distinguished road
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    Default Pay Fixation for ACP/Promotion after 01-01-06

    My basic on 01-01-06 was Rs. 15,000 in the scale of Rs. 12000-375-16500 with date of increment as 1st January. I was promoted in the scale of 14300-400-18300 on 28-01-2006, date of increment same as 1st January and the pay was fixed at Rs. 15,500. I would like to know the, what will be beneficial for me to opt the fixation from 01-01-2006/28-01-2007 or from 01-07-2006. Please let me know at the earliest.
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    Fixation Fixation Fixation Fixation
    1.1.06 1.1.06 28.1.06 1.7.06
    and 28.1.06 and 1.7.06 after Promo after Inc
    1.1.06 Old Pay 15000 15000
    New Pay 27900 27900
    G Pay 7600 7600
    DA 0 0
    Total 35500 35500
    28.1.06 Old Pay 15500 15500 15500
    Incr-1 1065 0
    New Pay 37400 27900 37400
    G Pay 8700 8700 8700
    DA 0 0
    Total 46100 36600 46100
    1.7.06 Old Pay 15500 15500 15500 15500
    Incr-1 0 1065 0 0
    Incr-2 0 1097 0 0
    New Pay 37400 37400 37400 37400
    G Pay 8700 8700 8700 8700
    DA 748 748 748 748
    Total 46848 46848 46848 46848
    1.7.07 Incr-1 1383 1383 1383 1383
    New Pay 38790 38790 38783 38783
    G Pay 8700 8700 8700 8700
    DA 3491 3491 3490 3490
    Total 50981 50981 50973 50973

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    Default Fixation Not Clear

    Please make it clear what will be beneficial, to opt the fixation from 01-01-06, or from 28-01-2006 or from 01-01-2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.K.Ahuja View Post
    My basic on 01-01-06 was Rs. 15,000 in the scale of Rs. 12000-375-16500 with date of increment as 1st January. I was promoted in the scale of 14300-400-18300 on 28-01-2006, date of increment same as 1st January and the pay was fixed at Rs. 15,500. I would like to know the, what will be beneficial for me to opt the fixation from 01-01-2006/28-01-2007 or from 01-07-2006. Please let me know at the earliest.
    Thanks
    If you opt for fixation in revised pay on 01-01-06 your fixation will be:
    On 01-01-2006 if your pay in the old scale of 12000-16500 (corresponding to new pay band of 15600-39100 and grade pay of 7600) was 15000 your pay will be 35500(including grade pay), and on the date of promotion your pay will become 46100 (including grade pay) which is the minimum of the pay in the pay band PB-4 37400-67000, grade pay 8700 (corresponding to old scale of 14300-18300), with date of next increment as 01-07-2007.
    If you opt for fixation in revised pay on date of promotion 28-01-2006 your fixation will be:
    On 01-01-2006 Pay will be 15000
    On the date of promotion your pay will become 15500 in the pre-revised scale
    On date of promotion pay will be 46100 (including grade pay) in the revised scale, which is the minimum of the pay in the pay band PB-4 37400-67000, grade pay 8700 (corresponding to old scale of 14300-18300), with date of next increment as 01-07-2007.
    If you opt for fixation in revised pay on 01-07-06 your fixation will be:
    On 01-01-2006 your pay will be 35500(including grade pay),
    On the date of promotion your pay will become 36600(including grade pay of 8700)
    On 01-07-2008 your pay will be 46100 which is the minimum of the pay in the pay band PB-4 37400-67000, grade pay 8700 (corresponding to old scale of 14300-18300), with date of next increment as 01-07-2007.
    Cleaerly opting for fixation in revised scale on 01-01-2006 is most beneficial

    For further queries post your comments on http://civilaccounts.blogspot.com/
    Last edited by gconnectsna; 18-09-2008 at 03:52 PM. Reason: error

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    Default Fixation

    Thanks! gconnectsna

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.K.Ahuja View Post
    My basic on 01-01-06 was Rs. 15,000 in the scale of Rs. 12000-375-16500 with date of increment as 1st January. I was promoted in the scale of 14300-400-18300 on 28-01-2006, date of increment same as 1st January and the pay was fixed at Rs. 15,500. I would like to know the, what will be beneficial for me to opt the fixation from 01-01-2006/28-01-2007 or from 01-07-2006. Please let me know at the earliest.
    Thanks
    You have 2 options- 1-1-06 or 28-1-06

    if u opt 1-1-2006 and opt promotion from 1-7-2006 i.e. date of increment[as per new clarification- instead of date of promotion] you will get PB4 grade pay from 28-1-06 with PB3 band pay till 1st July. In 1st July you will get annual increment on PB3 band pay+PB3 grade pay. Again 1 increment as promotion increment +PB4 GP. calculate this amount. If this is less than minimum of PB4- you will get the minimum Band Pay.
    27900 +7600 = 35,500 till 27-1-06
    27900+8700 =36,600 from 28-1-06 to 30-6-06
    30090+8700 =38790 from 1-7-06 which will be will be raised to 37400+8700=46,100 min at PB 4
    next increment on 1-7-07 and 1-7-08
    calculate yourself.


    If you opt for 28-1-06 your pay will be fixed straightway in PB4 in the corresponding stage. but you will lose [1]arrears for January and [2]next increment will be only in July 2007.
    15,500= 38,530+1 bunching increment=39,690+GP8700= 48390 from 28-1-06
    till 30-6-07. next increment on 1-7-07 and 1-7-2008.


    Calculate your loss and gain this way.
    Last edited by ksn; 18-09-2008 at 04:36 PM. Reason: revision

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    Default Pay fixation in the revised scale

    Sir,

    I was promoted on 25/10/2005. My DNI was Apr'2006. My pay was fixed on
    Apr'2006 on the promotion grade. Now in the revised scale I was given only one normal increment in Jul'06. I didn't get any benefit for my pay fixation which was done on Apr'06. Kindly clarify as I did not get any benefit in the promotion except a mere Rs.50/- raise in 25/10/2005 since I opted for fixation of my pay in Apr'06.

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    Sir,

    I was promoted on 25/10/2005. My DNI was Apr'2006. My pay was fixed on
    Apr'2006 on the promotion grade. Now in the revised scale I was given only one normal increment in Jul'06. I didn't get any benefit for my pay fixation which was done on Apr'06. Kindly clarify as I did not get any benefit in the promotion except a mere Rs.50/- raise in 25/10/2005 since I opted for fixation of my pay in Apr'06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akk View Post
    Sir,

    I was promoted on 25/10/2005. My DNI was Apr'2006. My pay was fixed on
    Apr'2006 on the promotion grade. Now in the revised scale I was given only one normal increment in Jul'06. I didn't get any benefit for my pay fixation which was done on Apr'06. Kindly clarify as I did not get any benefit in the promotion except a mere Rs.50/- raise in 25/10/2005 since I opted for fixation of my pay in Apr'06.
    Dear Akshay Kumar
    On promotion you opted to have your pay fixed on DNI. Simply opt out of that option. Your pay will be fixed on the date of promotion 25-10-2005, then on 01-01-2006 you will be fixed to the revised pay band and grade pay of promoted post and finally you will get increment on 01-07-2006 and subsequent increments in July of subsequent months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gconnectsna View Post
    Dear Akshay Kumar
    On promotion you opted to have your pay fixed on DNI. Simply opt out of that option. Your pay will be fixed on the date of promotion 25-10-2005, then on 01-01-2006 you will be fixed to the revised pay band and grade pay of promoted post and finally you will get increment on 01-07-2006 and subsequent increments in July of subsequent months.
    Sir

    As per FRSR reinvoking of earlier option should be permitted by DOPT only. Whether we have to represent to DOPT through Department.

    Pl. clarify.

    (AKK)

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    Sir

    As per FRSR reinvoking of earlier option should be permitted by DOPT only. Whether we have to represent to DOPT through Department.

    Pl. clarify.

    (AKK)

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.K.Ahuja View Post
    My basic on 01-01-06 was Rs. 15,000 in the scale of Rs. 12000-375-16500 with date of increment as 1st January. I was promoted in the scale of 14300-400-18300 on 28-01-2006, date of increment same as 1st January and the pay was fixed at Rs. 15,500. I would like to know the, what will be beneficial for me to opt the fixation from 01-01-2006/28-01-2007 or from 01-07-2006. Please let me know at the earliest.
    Thanks
    1. Opt for fixation 1.1.06 and fixation on promotion date
    Old Pay:15000 New Pay:27900+GP:7600 Total:35500 (PB-3)
    Promotion Incr @3% on 28.1.06 New Pay:37400+GP:8700 Total:46100
    Next Incr @3% on 1.7.07 New Pay:38790+GP:8700+DA:3491 Total:50981

    2. Opt for fixation 1.1.06 and fixation on next Incr date after promotion date
    Old Pay:15000 New Pay:27900+GP:7600 Total:35500 (PB-3)
    Promotion GP 8700 on 28.1.06 New Pay:27900+GP:8700 Total:36600
    Next two Incr @3% on 1.7.06 New Pay:37400+GP:8700+DA:748 Total:46848
    Next Incr @3% on 1.7.07 New Pay:38790+GP:8700+DA:3491 Total:50981

    3. Opt for fixation 28.1.06 on promotion date
    Old Pay:15500 New Pay:37400+GP:8700 Total:46100 (PB-3)
    Next Incr @3% on 1.7.07 New Pay:38783+GP:8700+DA:3490 Total:50973

    4. Opt for fixation 1.7.06 on promotion date
    Old Pay:15500 New Pay:37400+GP:8700 Total:46848 (PB-3)
    Next Incr @3% on 1.7.07 New Pay:38783+GP:8700+DA:3490 Total:50973

    for each option arrears may be worked out to see the benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akk View Post
    Sir

    As per FRSR reinvoking of earlier option should be permitted by DOPT only. Whether we have to represent to DOPT through Department.

    Pl. clarify.

    (AKK)
    Dear Akki

    When you opted to have your fixation done on the date of next increment at the time of promotion you exercised that option on the express belief that these pay scale and conditions associated with the pay rules at that time would continue in the future. However the pay scales and associated pay rules have been revised by the implementation of the revised pay rules. As such you have an inherent right to exercise revised option to derive any benefits or avoid any losses arising from the implementation of revised pay rules. As such the revision of option can be exercised through the authority which granted you the option in the first place (maybe your head of office/department). There is no need to approach the DOPT.
    "Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."
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    Default Bunching benefit

    What happens to the bunching benefits to Mr Ahuja?
    I think he should also get benefit of 4 increments benefit as he has earned 8 inc (12000 to 15000 on 1-1-06)
    Quote Originally Posted by gconnectsna View Post
    If you opt for fixation in revised pay on 01-01-06 your fixation will be:
    On 01-01-2006 if your pay in the old scale of 12000-16500 (corresponding to new pay band of 15600-39100 and grade pay of 7600) was 15000 your pay will be 35500(including grade pay), and on the date of promotion your pay will become 46100 (including grade pay) which is the minimum of the pay in the pay band PB-4 37400-67000, grade pay 8700 (corresponding to old scale of 14300-18300), with date of next increment as 01-07-2007.
    If you opt for fixation in revised pay on date of promotion 28-01-2006 your fixation will be:
    On 01-01-2006 Pay will be 15000
    On the date of promotion your pay will become 15500 in the pre-revised scale
    On date of promotion pay will be 46100 (including grade pay) in the revised scale, which is the minimum of the pay in the pay band PB-4 37400-67000, grade pay 8700 (corresponding to old scale of 14300-18300), with date of next increment as 01-07-2007.
    If you opt for fixation in revised pay on 01-07-06 your fixation will be:
    On 01-01-2006 your pay will be 35500(including grade pay),
    On the date of promotion your pay will become 36600(including grade pay of 8700)
    On 01-07-2008 your pay will be 46100 which is the minimum of the pay in the pay band PB-4 37400-67000, grade pay 8700 (corresponding to old scale of 14300-18300), with date of next increment as 01-07-2007.
    Cleaerly opting for fixation in revised scale on 01-01-2006 is most beneficial

    For further queries post your comments on http://civilaccounts.blogspot.com/

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    Hello,
    I would like to make it clear that the point written by you at s.no. 3.
    Old Pay:15,500 New Pay should have been Rs. 38,530/- + grade Pay 8700
    Total Pay: 47230/- according to the Fitment table, M/O Finance circular dated 30th August 2008 Page No. 29 for S-24.
    Next Incr @3% on 01-07-2007 New Pay 39950 + GP 8700 + DA 4379
    Total 53028.
    Hence is it not beneficial to have the fixation from 28-01-2006 (Date of Promotion). Please suggest after going through the details.
    As far as the point at S.No. 4 by you, it is exactly same as point no. 3.

    Thanks

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