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    Default Rectification by 7th CPC can only be propective

    The bizarre recommendations of the 6th CPC with regard to pay fixation are not going to be corrected by the 7th CPC with retrospective effect. The employees will have to bear the loss for ever. One illustration will make the things clear how these recommendations have violated the right of equality guaranteed by the Constitution.

    A panel of direct recruits for a post which was earlier in the scale of Rs. 5500-9000 but upgraded to Rs. 7450-11500, was out in December, 2005. The candidate at S. No. 1 joined say on 31/12/2005 and the candidate at S. No. 2 say on 1/1/2006. According to the peculiar recommendation, the senior one became the existing employee whose pay in the revised pay structure was fixed at Rs. 14,830 [5500 x 1.86 + 4600] whereas the junior being new entrant got entry pay of Rs. 17,140. Is it not a folly?

    Though the stepping up may help in this case but what about those in whose cadre there has been no direct recruitment for many years after 1.1.2006.

    We hope the next CPC will rectify such blunders of its previous commission but it will never give the rectification retrospective effect.

    Raj Kishore Sharma

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    agreed sir... these minute things should be kept in mind before implementing the 7th CPC

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    Default Permanent solution to pay and pensions fixing anamolies

    Dear Sir
    1.If pay and pensions are fixed in the revised structure at the same stage before revision then there can not be any anomaly.
    2. By whatever analogy one rank one pension is approved for defence employees then same analogy has to be applicable to civil services as one grade one pension.
    I hope above can be considered at proper forum for putting up to Seventh Pay Commission.
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    Default 7th CPC-Pay structure and 6th CPC Anomaly rectification

    Dear Sir,
    In my opinion in 6th CPC recommendations, what I feel as the major blunder is the date of implementation of MACP on 01.09.2008. Instead if it is implemented with effect from the date of 6th CPC implementation ie. on 01.01.2006 itself maximum anomalies would have not arised at all.
    Further, the allowances in new recommended rates also should be given from the same date of implementation.
    We hope the next CPC will rectify such blunders of its previous commission.
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    JAYAMOHAN

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    Dear friends
    One more thing to add in cpc
    As per 6 cpc those who worked 6 months and above is eligible annual/ july increment .
    Whereas mr x retires in july his pension is caculated by the last pay drawn i.e. increment month
    Mr y retires in the month of june his pension caculated last year increment
    In old method 10 month average pay caculated.
    Why one increment can be fixed for pension benefit purpose for the person retire on completion of 6 month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raj Kishore Sharma View Post
    The bizarre recommendations of the 6th CPC with regard to pay fixation are not going to be corrected by the 7th CPC with retrospective effect. The employees will have to bear the loss for ever. One illustration will make the things clear how these recommendations have violated the right of equality guaranteed by the Constitution.

    A panel of direct recruits for a post which was earlier in the scale of Rs. 5500-9000 but upgraded to Rs. 7450-11500, was out in December, 2005. The candidate at S. No. 1 joined say on 31/12/2005 and the candidate at S. No. 2 say on 1/1/2006. According to the peculiar recommendation, the senior one became the existing employee whose pay in the revised pay structure was fixed at Rs. 14,830 [5500 x 1.86 + 4600] whereas the junior being new entrant got entry pay of Rs. 17,140. Is it not a folly?

    Though the stepping up may help in this case but what about those in whose cadre there has been no direct recruitment for many years after 1.1.2006.

    We hope the next CPC will rectify such blunders of its previous commission but it will never give the rectification retrospective effect.

    Raj Kishore Sharma
    Even though stepping up was there, but if the new entrant joins after 02.01.2006, the older employee have to wait for one year 5 months and 29 days for earning an increment,i.e. on JUly 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lalida View Post
    Dear friends
    One more thing to add in cpc
    As per 6 cpc those who worked 6 months and above is eligible annual/ july increment .
    Whereas mr x retires in july his pension is caculated by the last pay drawn i.e. increment month
    Mr y retires in the month of june his pension caculated last year increment
    In old method 10 month average pay caculated.
    Why one increment can be fixed for pension benefit purpose for the person retire on completion of 6 month
    This is very valid question. Actually the 7 CPC has been requested to consider this situation and recommend allowing notional increment as on 30th June for calculation of pensionary benefits. In my Memorandum on behalf of the Govt. School Teachers Association, Delhi and Federation of Educational Associations of Delhi, this has been included.

    Raj Kishore Sharma

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    Quote Originally Posted by soodeep View Post
    Even though stepping up was there, but if the new entrant joins after 02.01.2006, the older employee have to wait for one year 5 months and 29 days for earning an increment,i.e. on JUly 2007.
    Dear Friend,

    The Finance Ministry people knew it very well. The burden on the exchequer could be lesser by sticking to the rule of stepping up for removal of pay anomalies rather than accepting 'Entry Pay' as the minimum.

    Raj Kishore Sharma

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raj Kishore Sharma View Post
    Dear Friend,

    The Finance Ministry people knew it very well. The burden on the exchequer could be lesser by sticking to the rule of stepping up for removal of pay anomalies rather than accepting 'Entry Pay' as the minimum.

    Raj Kishore Sharma
    Only Finance Ministry? Then how the 6 CPC did the same from promotees? No basic principle was laid down for fixing different entry pay for the new entrants whereas promotees has no choice, only wait for the new entrants for stepping up.

    soodeep

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