Dear Sirs,

I had earlier commited in the same thread that I will come to PB 4 Scale soon.
Accordingly, my submissions are as follows:
As per the existing orders, 50% of minimum of PB+GP will be full pension for 33 years qualifying service in respect of pre-2006 pensioners.

The Minimum of Pre-revised scale and Minimum pay in the pay band and PB and GP as applicable are as hereunder:

S24 PB 4 14300 37400 PB37400 GP 8700
S25 PB 4 15100 39690 -do- -do-
S26 PB 4 16400 39690 -do- GP 8900
S27 PB 4 16400 39690 -do- -do-
S28 PB 4 16400 37400 -do- GP 10000
S29 PB 4 14300 44700 -do- GP 10000
S30 PB 4 18400 51850 PB37400 GP 10000
All PB Minimum are same 37400.

On an average, a person from S-23 can expect promotion to S-24 in a period
of more than 5 years subject to vacancy/seniority and same applies from one scale to another further. Whereas, as per the existing orders, S-24 and S-25 pensioners will get only 23050, S-26 and S-27 will get Rs.23150 (I am unable to type at this point of time while thinking about me who retired with just 19.5 years from S-010 with last pay Rs.7250 only). More so, when proceeding further, to tell that all three scale pensioners will get 23700 only. Any Lateral Thinking can help at this point of time by the Authorities?....

Like in the case of Post-2006 pensioners (Pre-Sep.2008), if the expected order on `Minimum pay in the pay band' is on our hands tomorrow, what will be the position?

S-24 23050
S-25 24195
S-26 24295
S-27 24285
S-28 23700
S-29 27300
S-30 30925

At the same time HAG Pension will be as follows:
Scale Min. of Scale Pension
S-31 (22400) 37750
S-32 (24050) 37750
S-33 (26000) 40000
S-34/S-35 (30000) 45000

The PB 4 Group other than HAG will get a pension between 23-30 where asd
and the HAG will get pension between 37-45. The pay revised scales range between 14-18 for other than HAG and for HAG it is 22-30. The Minimum has variation about8000 and maximum has variation about 12000.

Even if we apply 50%of variation to this, the scales S-24 may be having pension at 30000 and rest will have 31000 and the scale at S-29 may be having 35000 and the S-30 scale may be having 38000. This is only a rough idea to arrive at the probable minimum pension corresponding to the pre-revised scale of S-24 to S-30 and the actual pension of remaining HAG Scales. Suppose a person retiring with more than minimum of the pre-revised scale in any of these Scales including S-24 and S-35, he will also get the same minimum 50% of pay band +GP or if amended 50% of minimum pay in PB and GP and that too after rendering a 33 years+ service. His hard earned individual pay does not have any weightage like that of post-2006 pensioners.
Further, in comparison with the post-Sep.2008 pensioners retiring with 20 years even in the minimum pay scale, the hard earned service of 13 years as well as hard earned individual pay in the scale have gone into Ganges. The corresponding Employers' Contribution will also have no meaning.

There are some arguments from some quarters that the `burden' will be more even if they interpret pay in pay band which is actual version of the O.M. itself. ONly the annexure differs from its mother. What has become more
we see ourselves, which is in 100-650 or so in r/o S-23 to S-30 scales.
Even if pay in pay band is implemented, the maximum pension is just 30000 and minimum is just 23050/24195. Whereas, by a rough calcuation in the preceding para, the minimum itself will be 30000 for S-23/S-24 and the maximum will be Rs.35000/38000 for S-29/S-30.

Same changes will take place in respective Scales of S-5 to S-23. For this purpose, the following two things are very essential to just even cross check.

1. Why the Govt. is always telling 50% of average emoluments or 50% of last pay drawn (as confirmed by the latest order of 11.12.2008) is the revised pension. Because, the serving employee is slated to draw 100% emoluments the pensioner will be able to run the family with 50% of that. When the serving employees' emoluments get revised, is not judicious to revise the
corresponding 50% in respect of pensioners to that of revised 50% of emoluments corresponding to pre-revised pay which determined the basic pension.

2. What is the need for dispensing with the linkage of full pension with max. qualifying service of 33 years (no prospective effect has been prescribed by the Resolution) by prescribing max. 20 years or otherwise pro-rata.
Because, even at this stage, we are talking only in terms of 50% of emoluments in revised structure for post-2006 pensioners and 50% of emoluments applicable four Paybands minimum + GP applicable for rest of the pensioners. Even if we amend pay in pay band, what is going to happen? Just a few hundreds/thousands as pointed above, which have no meaning corresponding to the various
stages in the pre-revised scales and the responsibilities attached to the respective posts right from Independence. Yes, something is better than nothing. Whether that is what the intention behind by the authorities to
apply different logic for future pensioners and something else for past pensioners. We have a bounden duty to respect the Hon. Supreme Court Ruling in its fullest terms, and the logic behind the 6CPC also has to be seen in depth while issuing implementation orders. The yardstick/logic applied for
post-Sep.2008 pensioners hold good for pre-Sep.2008 pensioners whatever
Paycommission period may be earlier right from 1946 or so onwards.

To conclude, a pensioner is a pensioner and he was also an employee at difficult times of pre-computer era. Things were re-generated during post-independence to bring out what is the situation today. There is no credit taking in giving 20% or something for 80 years pensioners, and 100 years aged pensioners. Instead, for a while, please all think what would be their corresponding revised pay compared to their last pay drawn on the date of retirement, and if 50% of such corresponding revised pay of date if paid to them by having a uniform policy for ALL PENSIONERS AS A WHOLE,
Whether Govt. will not get the blessings of all these present day senior citizens/future senior citizens? This is the Pensioners' Welfare that ought to be.

I pray LORD SHRINATHJI AND LORD SHRI GURUVAYOORAPPAN TO APPEAR AS
JUSTICE KRISHNA AND SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS OF THE DATE. I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ADD BEYOND THIS PRAYER AT THIS MOMENT PLEASE.

AS USUAL THANKS FOR PATIENT READING. QUALITY CONSISTENCY ETC.
MAY BE MISSING IN MY MESSAGE. BURDEN OF THE MESSAGE IS LIKE THAT, SO PLEASE EXCUSE ME.

BEST REGARDS. If Santa Clause is not bringing another amendment,
New Year and Pongal (Thai piranthal Vazhi Pirakkum - IF TAMIL MONTH JAN.14 PONGAL COMES THERE WILL BE WAY OUT FOR ALL PROBLEMS). THEN OR OTHERWISE ALSO AND ALWAYS -
SHRI KRISHNA CHARANAM MAMAA.