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    Dear Mr Subba Rao

    Thanks for presenting your example.

    Yes, you are correct. It is happening to almost all pensioners who were in pre-revised scales from S-4 to S-30, leaving alone the top four S-31 to S-34 (about which I shall be making a separate anlaysis and presenting the same in this thread/ forum soon!).

    Perhaps you must have seen the analyses presented by me and others in earlier postings in this thread and they are also similar cases.

    TO KNOW THE DISPARITY AND THE LOSS FOR PAST PENSIONERS IN THE PRE_REVISED SCALES, PLEASE GO TO THE Retd Railway Pensioners' Employees Welfare Association's (RREWA) viz. www.rrewa.org WHERE THEY HAVE POSTED THE COPY OF THEIR APPEAL TO THE Hon'ble PM on this issue and see the table attached by them with the appeal. THIS TABLE WILL BE AN EYE-OPENER TO ALL!

    The individual losses vary from Rs 168 to Rs 7250 pm plus DR and the affected pensioners fall in scales S-4 to S-30 save a few/ solitary exceptions.

    Please urge every co-pensioner from your side to join the fight against injustice, send immediate appeal to the Secy, DoP/PW for redressal if not done already, and for any sample rep. you can take the first of my postings or even the model prepared by the RREWA for their pensioners (it is a bit lengthy- you may choose to edit and use the same).

    Regards

    vnatarajan

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    hi All

    (PL DISSEMINATE THIS MESSAGE WIDE ACROSS ALL AFFECTED OLD & HELPLESS PENSIONERS/ FAMILY PENSIONERS AND PL.DO SOME SERVICE IF U CAN)

    The debate so far has clearly brought out that there are disparities at various levels in pension fixation formulae for fixing the correct/ minimum pension to the pre-2006/ even earlier pensioners based on the directives issued through OMs of 3rd Oct and 14th Oct 2009 by the DoP/PW and concerned authorities.

    Ministry of Finance's clear cut concordance tables given in their OM of 13th Sept 2008 for fixing the revised pay-scales have been TOTALLY IGNORED for pension fixation and this is not only ridiculous but is ADMINISTRATIVELY most unethical.

    IS THE MoF totally ignorant of this act of omission or overstepping ?

    Or ARE THEY THE PERPETUATORS? If this is so,then such an action stands condemned and we the pensioners wil be compelled to view the same as most distrustful!

    FOR THOSE OLD PENSIONERS WHO HAVE NOT ACTED SO FAR TO REPRESENT THEIR CASES:PLEASE ACT FAST.

    Several models of appeals/ representations are already available. Many can see the Retired Railways Employees representations in their welfare association's website www.rrewa.org and copy the text to suit their cases. To know the exact amount of scale-wise disparities, Annexure attached to RREWA's appeal to PM may be seen.

    Appeals may be sent to the Secy,DoP/PW.

    Those who have received their final pensions as per 14th Oct 2004 OM of DoP/PW, they may perhaps address the same to the Anomaly Committee of the Ministry bOf Pensions/ Deptt. of Pensions etc.

    More knowledgeable pensioners with means may kindly help other old/ sickly/ less enlightened pensioners.

    ALL PENSIONERS" ASSOCIATIONS MUST ALSO TAKE UP THE MATTER SERIOUSLY AND SEND APPEALS FOR REDRESSAL TO G.O.I QAND ALL MINISTRIES/ DEPTTS CONCERNED.

    vnatarajan

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    Cool Injustice to pre-2006 pensioners

    Shri V natarajan,

    Extremely thankful to you for appreciating the injustice and enlightening me on actions taken by others in this regard, Particularly Railway pensioners. I do take your advice and tell my fellow retirees to act.

    R S Subba Rao

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    hi All

    HAPPIEST DIWALI GREETINGS TO EVERYBODY! ENJOY EVERY MOMENT OF THIS LIGHT-FULL AND DELIGHTFUL DAY WITH ALL!

    SPECIAL WISHES TO GCONNECT AND ITS ESTABLISHMENT

    vnatarajan & Co-pensioners/ families from Chennai

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    Sixth Pay Commission

    The Sixth Central Pay Commission recommendations have brought some cheer to Central government employees in these difficult times. But a sizeable number of retired senior citizens have been left in the lurch. They include those who retired from some senior levels before January 1, 2006. The Department of Pension and Pensioners’ Welfare’s clarification of October 3, 2008, has reduced to naught all accepted official norms, contravening the decision of the Supreme Court. It has brought despair to an arbitrarily created section of the same grade of pensioners.

    A spate of representations pointing out this anomaly has not met with any response. The government, in fact, reinforced the arbitrariness in its next clarification order dated October 14, 2008. The clarification has resulted in the denial of the minimum basic pay and the resultant minimum pension to those on one side of the chronological divide as on January 1, 2006.

    As a typical example, between two officers at the level of Joint Secretary, the one who retired before January 1, 2006, will draw a pension of Rs.23,700 whereas the others retiring on or after the same date will draw Rs.27,350 per month.

    P.K. Ranganathan,

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    Mr Sundaram/ Mr Ranganathan

    If the letter is published already in the Hindu, we must draw the attention of the DOP/PW and as per their own guidelines on grievances of pensioners' etc., they are supposed to take cognisance and act.

    vnatarajan

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    Dear Sir,

    The following three rules are significant to draw attention of the authorities.

    1. Rule 3(5) of CCS (RP) Rules - Pay in the Pay Band means the Pay drawn in the RUNNING Pay Bands specified in Col. 5 of the First Schedule.

    2. Rule 13(i) of CCS (RP) Rules - One increment.... However, if the PAY in the Pay Band after adding the increment is less than the MINIMUM of the Higher Pay Band (The word `Pay' is missing after the word `Minimum') to which promotion is taking place, PAY in the pay band can be stepped to such minimum. (For example, if a person was fixed at Rs.4000 in the pay scale of Rs.4000-100-6000 on promotion on 1.4.2008, his pay in the pay band need not be stepped to Rs.5200 which is the minimum of Pay Band, but to be stepped upto 7440 which is the minimum pay in the pay Band)

    3. Para 4.2 of O.M. dated 1.9.2008 - The revised pension cannot be less than 50% of sum of minimum of Pay Band + GP under col.8. (Here too, the word `Pay' is missing after the word `minimum').

    4. The fitment Table also indicates as PAY IN THE PAY BAND for arriving the basic , THEN WHAT IS THE MINIMUM OF THE PAY IN THE PAY BAND. That is the minimum pay in the running pay band.
    The Pay Band in general is nothing like scale of pay, and it is only an identification. In the scale of pay, if we see the minimum pay it will be the starting point of the scale. But in the Pay Band the case is entirely different because of the definition `Pay in the running pay band'. Pay Band and Running Pay Band - To be seen in letter and spirit.
    Taking into account all the above points, it is seen that Minimum Pay in the Pay Band is the Pay drawn in the Running Pay Band as per the definition itself.(The Minimum Pay in the Running Pay Band. In the case of S-29, it will be Rs.44700 and, with GP, it is Rs.54700 and thereby the minimum revised pension to be ensured is 27350 and nothing less than that). Same yardstick for any other scale also.

    Minimum of Pay Band is applicable only for direct recruits, where such minimum has been exclusively prescribed with reference to the GP admissible.

    Further, the para 4.2 does not specify requirement of 33 years for such a 50% of sum of minimum of PB + GP. Once an employee is allowed to retire with pension prior to 1.1.2006 or 1.9.2008, the minimum revised pension that has to be ensured shall be arrived at only to the extent of 50% of Minimum Pay in the Running Pay Band + GP without any requirement of any reduction pro-rata w.r.t. no. of years service rendered.

    The battle lies in between Pay in the Pay Band and Pay Band, and the matter requires immediate attention of the concerned Authorities.

    I submitted my views on this matter, and incidentally, I am also an aggrieved person in this regard. Hope further clarification after seeing all our views, will be arriving soon.

    Best regards.
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    Dear Mr Sundarar

    Many thanks for your detailed analysis.
    Let us all- aggrieved pensioners-now caught in this mire of interpretations/ counterinterpretations - find a favourable solution - which has to come from the authorities.

    I am still not convinced that the authorities who have precipitated the matter for whatever reasons, will so easilly bail out a solution. That is the character of bureaucracy in this country!

    vnatarajan

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    Dear Mr.Sundarar / VNatarajan,

    Your concern for the pensioners in general and pre- 1.1.2006 is understandable as you are also a victim of OMs which is issued by the authorities without application of mind.

    In this regard I would like to state the following simple modification will solve whole lot of confusion created due to the attempt to oversimplify the pay scales into 4 pay bands.

    Apart from the 4 pay bands there must be sub-bands each for each 'grade pay' within the pay bands in such a way the end point of the sub pay bands must be same as the main pay band.

    Whenever there is recruitment / promotion from one grade pay to another grade pay within the same pay band or next pay band, the sub-pay band should be applicable to the extent the minimum of the sub-pay band is to be ensured.

    This step will solve most of the problems both to the serving employees as also the pensioners.

    ss

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    Dear Mr Sudacgwb

    Thanks for your nice suggestions.With simple statements as you have sampled, and with suitable title in the Column of the relevant Annexure (say title can be "Corresponding Sub Pay-band within the Pay Band") of the OM of say 14th Oct 08, issue may get some resolution. Of course all scales from S 4 to S 30 have to be checked!

    vnatarajan

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    Hi All

    Any small coverage/ article on the Pensioners' despair in "Deccan Chronicle" of 31st Oct 2008 (Chennai/ Bangalore) ?
    If any one has seen the same, can u pl copy the same and post it for viewing by all interested pensioners?
    Thanks

    vnatarajan

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    Mr.VNatarajan,

    I viewed an edition of the Deccan Chronicle and there was no such article. Kindly elaborate, if known

    ss

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    D/Mr Sudacgwb

    I am currently at BGL. I have asked my friends at Chennai to check up and inform. May be by this evening or so - details if any-of anything published- may be recieved!

    vnatarajan

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    hi Friends/ Co pensioners

    Letter that was published in the Deccan Chronicle, Chennai Ed, on 30th Oct 2008 (edited by the newspaper itself!) reproduced below (Courtesy Mr A V Mukuntharajan, Jr Member from Chennai)
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    Deccan Chronicle 30th Oct 2008 Page 10 – Letters column


    PENSION PLEA
    Sir, There is no doubt that
    implementation of the 6th
    central pay commission recommendations
    has brought
    some cheer to the Central
    government employees. But a
    sizeable number of retired
    senior citizens, including all
    those who retired from senior
    levels before January 1,
    2006, have been left in the
    lurch. This group is aggrieved
    because the pension
    department’s clarification of
    October 3, 2008, brings to
    naught all accepted norms
    contravening the decisions of
    the Supreme Court. A spate
    of representations pointing
    out this anomaly has not been
    met with any response. We
    appeal to the authorities concerned
    to redress our grievances
    and do justice.
    P. K. RANGANATHAN
    Chennai
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    vnatarajan

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    hi All

    While we are getting various clarifications through interpretative discussions/ debate here, it may be relevant to see other parallel threads on related aspects.

    Mr Sundarar's thread on"Invalid Minimum of Pay Band" is one such. What Mr PKRanganathan has posted there y'day is very informative, which I reproduce here:
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    Dear shri. Sundar,

    Yours is an excellent analysis of the issue of Minimum pay in the pay band Vis-a-vis, minimum of the payband . in summary the position is as under.

    i) The pay bands in the 6th CPC cannot, by any logic, be taken to be the equivalent replacement to the pay scales of the different grades that existed under the 5th CPC. Each pay- band under the 6th CPC, in fact, is a chain of a group of pay scales under the 5th CPC, with appropriate/ corresponding start points within.There were 34 graded pay scales in the 5th CPC era . Under the 6th CPC, related Revised Pay Rules, these have now been accommodated into 4 running pay bands apart from one newly created super time scale and two fixed scale above them. The pay scales grouped into each pay band have appropriate starting points in the pay band with distinct grade pay for each. This fact is settled beyond doubt, through the provisions in the ministry of finance RPR rules notification, vide. G.S.R. 622 (E) ed 29 Aug 08 and further confirmed in their OM: F. No. 1/7/2008-IC dated 30 Aug 08, regarding pay fixation and dop & pw OM. 38/37/08-P&PW(A) dated 29 Aug accepting recommendations of the 6th CPC and OM even number, dated 01 Sep 08.



    ii) On the same plank, different entry level basic pays have been fixed in the same Pay band, for direct recruits appointed after, 1-1-06, in the posts carrying different grade pays.


    iii) The modifications notified in the order of 03 Oct 08, will result in two different minimum basic pays in the relevant pay band, for the same grade under the 5th CPC,; one for the serving employee and one for retired employee.

    By the foregoing, little is left to doubt that the minimum of the pay band is not and cannot be construed as the minimum pay in the pay band, and for all purposes including pension and family pension of either pre or post 2006, pensioners, this minimum basic pay is the minimum pay in the pay band as notified in the finance ministry orders and confirmed in your first notified OM of 30 Sep 08.

    Your examples under FR22, further reinforce the above correct position and the view all of us hold. I have no doubt that govt will open their eyes and correct their mistakes hopefully without our requirement to knock the doors of the courts of law.

    regards.
    PK Ranganahan.----------------------------------------------------------------------

    vnatarajan (thanks to Mr PKR)

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    Default Draft letter on `minimum' aspects

    Thank you very much Shri PKRji and Shri VNji for kind valuable observations.
    As desired by all senior members of the Forum, I submit a draft letter for kind consideration of the Forum.

    Best regards and thanks for providing an opportunity like this.
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    To November , 2008.


    Shri M.P.Singh,
    Director (PP)
    Department of Pension & Pensioners’ Welfare,
    Ministry of Personnel & Public Grievances & Pensions
    Loknayak Bhavan,
    NEW DELHI-110 033. TELEFAX: 011-24624802


    Dear Sir,

    On behalf of the Pensioners of the Central Government, we would like to invite your kind attention to the O.M. No.38/37/08-P&PW(A).pt. dated 14.10.2008 regarding Revision of Pension of Pre-2006 Pensioners/Family Pensioners w.e.f. 1.1.2006.

    The col.8 and 9 of Annexure-1 of the aforesaid O.M. indicates about the `sum of minimum of PB + GP/Scales’ for Pensioners and Family Pensioners to determine the minimum revised pension in respect of the corresponding pre-revised scale from which the Pensioners had retired.

    While the said Annexure-1 to O.M. dated 14.10.2008 relates to minimum of PB, the O.M. F.No.38/37/08-P&PW(A) dated 1.9.2008 issued by the Secretary to the Govt. of India, DoP&PW emphasizes about MINIMUM OF THE PAY IN THE PAY BAND + GP of the corresponding pre-revised scale from which the pensioner had retired.

    It may kindly be noted that the MINIMUM OF THE PAY IN THE PAY BAND to a corresponding pre-revised scale can be none other than the minimum pay in the corresponding RUNNING Pay Band to such pre-revised scale from which the pensioner had retired.

    As each pay band under the 6th CPC is a chain of a group of pay scales under the 5th CPC, with appropriate/corresponding minimum in the running pay band, the minimum of Pay Band referred to in the Annexure-1 to O.M. dt. 14.10.2008 cannot be construed as the minimum pay in the pay band for the corresponding pre-revised scale of pay from which the Govt. servant had retired and started drawing pension. As such, the contention under Annexure-1 in this regard, actually is not in accordance with Para 4.2 of the O.M. dt. 1.9.2008 and therefore, requires to be modified in line with the Para 4.2 of the O.M. dt. 1.9.2008 issued by the Secretary to the Govt. of India, DoP&PW.

    We therefore request you to look into the matter for appropriate action in this regard.

    Thanking you,

    Yours faithfully,

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    Copy forwarded
    To
    The Secretary to the Govt. of India,
    Department of Pension & Personnel’s Welfare
    Ministry of Personnel & Public Grievances & Pensions, Govt. of India,
    Lok Nayak Bhavan,
    NEW DELHI-110 033. - for kind information and necessary action please.

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    Dear All

    Mr Sundarar, learned member, has taken the pains to prepare a draft on the CRITICAL ISSUE of the interpretation of the 'MINIMUM' of the PB.

    Except for the word RUNNING(which may not be necessary at all as there is already a qualifying word - 'corresponding'), as a retired scientist Ifeel, the draft can be adopted for sending a number of individual appeals by post and Email to the DoP/PW immediately to keep alive our grievance issue. I am not competent to understand the language of the administrators and so others may kindly suggest amendments/ additions/ modifications etc so that all interested can send their appeals quickly.

    However, can there be a line to suggest that if this appeal is attended to by the DOP/PW quickly, there may not be any need for issual of multiple PPOs in future, as the settling of this 'MINIMUM" issue may resolve many ambiguities!

    (WE SHOULD GO AHEAD WITH APPEALS ON CORE ISSUES PENDING THE OTHER EXERCISE OF PREPARING THE ARTICLE FOR NEWSPAPERS)

    Some actions to proceed further pl.

    vnatarajan

    (I and many of my colleagues/ copensioners have sent more than a hundred reps. to DOP/PW already in early/ middle/ late Oct 2008 on the injustice issue and none have recieved any response/ reply so far. I AM PERSONALLY INCLINED TO SEND MY SECOND APPEAL on the 'MINIMUM" issue by tomorrow/day-after- using Mr Sundaraar's draft, by email/post)

    vnatarajan

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    Dear All

    Mr R Sundaram's (our member?) letter appears to have been published in the Hindu, Chennai Edition today-reproduced from website of iofs:
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    Sixth Pay Commission

    Over the years, particularly after the Fifth Pay Commission recommendations, near-parity has been established between past pensioners and those just retiring from Central government services. The Commission had hoped that full parity would become possible after computerisation. But the authorities are laying down rules that strike at the roots of the existing norms of parity, notwithstanding the Sixth Pay Commission recommendations.

    Now, there are two classes of pensioners — those who retired before and after 2006. Those retiring after 2006 reap the full benefits of protection of 50 per cent of the salary last drawn. But the pre-2006 retirees are being scaled down to an arbitrary point in the new scales termed minimum of pay bands which, in most cases, have no relevance to the posts from which they retired. The value of their service is thus being arbitrarily deflated.

    R. Sundaram,

    Chennai
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    vnatarajan

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    hi All

    I have posted a query/request in the RREWA website, after registering there as a member, wh I reproduce here for info:
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    Sirs/ RREWA council members
    As a retd. Central Govt. pre-2006 pensioner and also as the President of the Pensioners' Forum, Chennai (affiliated to the AIFPA)I, and other Co-pensioners have sent numerous representations to the DoP/PW of the Ministry of P,PG & Pensioners in October 2008 (2nd to 3rd week)on the issue of the wide disparity in pensions that will crop up consequent to the implementation of 6th CPC related OMs dtd 3rd and 14th Oct 2008 of DoP/PW resulting in injustice to pre-2006 pensioners.
    We appear to be at dead end unless RREWA/ RSCWS etc take up the matter seriously by (1)HIGHLIGHTING THE PROBLEM in the newspapers at DELHI/ other media and (2)BY ULTIMATELY APPEALING TO Hon'ble LALLU PRASAD YADAVji to intervene and resolve the problem.
    Otherwise many OLD/AGED/HANDICAPPED Pensioners (like me)/family pensioners/ dependents will be helpless due to the reckless/inhuman attitude of the DoP/PW & MOF.
    VNatarajan
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    All of you- the active debating members of this thread might not be aware, that as early as 8th May 2008, the Railway Senior Citizens' Welafar Society (pl chk for correct title),Chandigarh had taken up this issue and also other disparity items in their letter/ memo to the Empowered Committe of Secretaries, presided over by the Cabinet Secretary, wh reviewed the recos of 6th CPC.BUT NOTHING SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN CARED FOR!
    Pl visit their website and study the details.

    vnatarajan
    Last edited by vnatarajan; 04-11-2008 at 06:13 PM. Reason: typographic/ text improvement

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    On the suggestions of Mr Natarajan i have placed this modified letter, incorporating certain missing links.


    Sub: Appeal to remove the ambiguity in the OM NO 38/37/08-(P/PWAngel smile emoticon) dt

    14.10.2008 related to the MINIMUM of the pay band in the Annexure 1


    Dear Madam

    On behalf of myself and several aggrieved Pensioners of the Central Government, I invite

    your kind attention to the O.M. No.38/37/08-P&PW(A).pt. dated 14.10.2008 regarding Revision

    of Pension of Pre-2006 Pensioners/Family Pensioners w.e.f. 1.1.2006.

    The col.8 and 9 of Annexure-1 of the aforesaid O.M. indicates the `sum of minimum of PB +

    GP/Scales’ for Pensioners and Family Pensioners to determine the minimum revised pension in

    respect of the corresponding pre-revised scale from which the Pensioners had retired.

    While the said Annexure-1 to O.M. dated 14.10.2008 relates the Pension to the minimum of PB,

    the earlier O.M. F.No.38/37/08-P&PW(A) dated 1.9.2008, also issued by your kind office,

    relates the Pension to a MINIMUM OF THE PAY IN THE PAY BAND + GP of the corresponding

    pre-revised scale from which the pensioner had retired.

    It may kindly be noted that the MINIMUM OF THE PAY IN THE PAY BAND to a corresponding

    pre-revised scale cannot be anything, other than the minimum pay in the corresponding Pay

    Band to such pre-revised scale from which the pensioner had retired.This fact is verifiable

    through the provisions in the ministry of finance RPR rules notification, vide. G.S.R. 622

    (E) ed 29 Aug 08 and further confirmed in their OM: F. No. 1/7/2008-IC dated 30 Aug 08,

    regarding pay fixation wrt various grades, within the pay bands, for promotees and direct

    recruits

    As each pay band under the 6th CPC is a chain of a group of pay scales under the 5th CPC,

    with appropriate/corresponding minimum in the running pay band, the minimum of Pay Band

    referred to in the Annexure-1 to O.M. dt. 14.10.2008 cannot be construed as the minimum pay

    in the pay band for the corresponding pre-revised scale of pay from which the Govt. servant

    had retired and started drawing pension.As such, the contention under Annexure-1 in this

    regard, actually is not in accordance with Para 4.2 of the O.M. dt. 1.9.2008.It will also

    result in two different minimum basic pays in the relevant pay band, for the same grade

    under the 5th CPC,; one for the serving employee and one for retired employee.The OM

    therefore, requires to be modified in line with the correct position as rflected in Para

    4.2 of the O.M. dt. 1.9.2008 issued by the Secretary to the Govt. of India, DoP&PW and in

    accordance with the Ministry of Finanace OMs mentioned above.

    I and other co-pensioners, therefore, request you to look into the matter for appropriate

    action in this regard.

    We also submit that rectifying this ambiguity/ anomoly in time, will help avoid issuance of

    multiple PPOs in future. Several Banks, from which Pensioners draw their pensions, have to

    be guided appropriately by clarifying the matter soon so that the final PPOs to be, issued

    are correct and and the pension and arrears drawn are justifiable.

    Thanking you,

    Yours faithfully,



    (V Natarajan)

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    To
    The Secretary to the Govt. of India,
    Department of Pension & Personnel’s Welfare
    Ministry of Personnel & Public Grievances & Pensions, Govt. of India,
    Lok Nayak Bhavan

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