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    Arrow 3 rd MACP Eligible ?

    Sir ,

    As per details given below whether 3rd MACP eligible wef 1.9.2008.
    V CPC scale
    Appointed on 1.7.1978 as Tech.Asst = scale 425-700 4500-7000
    Promoted on 16.7.1986 as STA = 1640-2900 5500-9000
    Placed in Higher scale as STA-I = 2375-3500 7450-11500
    on 1.8.1994

    2nd ACP on 1.7.2002 = 7500-12000

    Now Whether 3rd MACP eligible wef 1.9.2008.

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    Dear friend,

    On completion of 30 years of service, the employee is eligible w.e.f. 01.09.2008 for 3rd upgradation under MACPS to the Grade pay of 4800.

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    Sir,

    As on 1.1.2006 having GP 4800 with reference to pre-revised scale of pay Rs.7500-1200 got under 2nd ACP during 2002.

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    Dear friend,

    No doubt, the 3rd upgradation under MACPS as on 01.09.2008 would be to the GP of 5400 in PB-2.

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    Sir

    My doubt is , Already get change in three grade pay from the date of appointment as appointed in 2800 grade pay during july 1978 and
    promoted to grade pay 4200 during 1986----1st
    placed in grade pay 4600 during 1994-----2nd
    2nd ACP got in grade pay 4800 during 2002-----3rd


    as on 1.9.2008n already change in three grade pays .Now how eligible 3rd MACP wef 1.9.2008 with the grade pay Rs.5400.

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    Dear friend,

    The GP of 4800 (pre-revised 7500) w.e.f 2002 was the 2nd upgradation under ACP on completion of 20 years. Placement in GP of 4600 in 1994 will not count for ACP/MACP. Accordingly 3rd upgradation is due on completion of 30 years/ date of inception of MACPS on 01.09.2008 to the GP of 5400.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvenkatam View Post
    Dear friend,

    The GP of 4800 (pre-revised 7500) w.e.f 2002 was the 2nd upgradation under ACP on completion of 20 years. Placement in GP of 4600 in 1994 will not count for ACP/MACP. Accordingly 3rd upgradation is due on completion of 30 years/ date of inception of MACPS on 01.09.2008 to the GP of 5400.
    Venkatsir,
    If employee got 2nd acp on 2002 in present case means two grades occupied previously by the employee have been merged or upgraded by 5th cpc itself.so clarification by you is very easy to understand.

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    A person appointed in OCtober, 1979 as LDC, promoted as UDC in 1982 and under time bound promotion scheme as available in the department placed in 1400 Scale now GP 4200 in 1996 got regular promotion in the grade pay of Rs.4200 in 2008, whether he is eligible for 3rd ACP from 1.9.2008 or from 1.10.2009 ie. after completion of 30 years of service. Also please enlighten as when the 3rd ACP is granted after 30 years of service and when it is granted after 30 years of service or 10 years of service in the same grade pay.
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    Last edited by gokul1969; 18-12-2010 at 08:24 PM.

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    In continuation to the above, as per om dated May,2009, if two promotions are earned before completion of 20 years,
    only 3rd financial upgradation would be admissible on completion of 10
    years of service in Grade Pay from the date 2nd promotion or at 30th year
    of service, whichever is earlier.
    If a Government servant has been granted either two regular promotions
    or 2nd financial upgradation under the ACP Scheme of August, 1999 after
    completion of 24 years of regular service then only 3rd financial
    upgradation would be admissible to him under the MACPS on completion
    of 30 years of service provided that he has not earned third promotion in
    the hierarchy. What does it mean. Does it mean that if two promotions are earned within 20 years, you are eligible for MACP on completion of 10 years of service in same grade pay and if it is earned after 20 years, elgible for MACP on completion of 30 years. Venkatam Sir, Please give your valued opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by gokul1969 View Post
    A person appointed in OCtober, 1979 as LDC, promoted as UDC in 1982 and under time bound promotion scheme as available in the department placed in 1400 Scale now GP 4200 in 1996 got regular promotion in the grade pay of Rs.4200 in 2008, whether he is eligible for 3rd ACP from 1.9.2008 or from 1.10.2009 ie. after completion of 30 years of service. Also please enlighten as when the 3rd ACP is granted after 30 years of service and when it is granted after 30 years of service or 10 years of service in the same grade pay.
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    Gokul
    As per MACP Order (http://persmin.gov.in/WriteReadData/...tt.%28D%29.pdf) MACP Scheme cannot run concurrently with any existing time bound promotion scheme.

    Victor

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    Quote Originally Posted by gokul1969 View Post
    In continuation to the above, as per om dated May,2009, if two promotions are earned before completion of 20 years,
    only 3rd financial upgradation would be admissible on completion of 10
    years of service in Grade Pay from the date 2nd promotion or at 30th year
    of service, whichever is earlier.
    If a Government servant has been granted either two regular promotions
    or 2nd financial upgradation under the ACP Scheme of August, 1999 after
    completion of 24 years of regular service then only 3rd financial
    upgradation would be admissible to him under the MACPS on completion
    of 30 years of service provided that he has not earned third promotion in
    the hierarchy. What does it mean. Does it mean that if two promotions are earned within 20 years, you are eligible for MACP on completion of 10 years of service in same grade pay and if it is earned after 20 years, elgible for MACP on completion of 30 years. Venkatam Sir, Please give your valued opinion
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    Dear Friend,

    Your inference is correct.

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    Sir,

    As per clarification No: 35 of ACP issued vide
    http://www.persmin.nic.in/WriteReadD...Vol.IV)-II.htm
    when individual is placed in higher scale on completion of certain length of service from previous scale , the placement will be treated as " PROMOTION/UPGRADATION ' for ACP . Hence in this case placment to higher scale done during 1994 from the scale of pay Rs.1640-2900 to scale of pay Rs.2375-3500 . Whether this placement to higher scale treated as promotion/upgradtion for ACP .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvenkatam View Post
    Dear friend,

    The GP of 4800 (pre-revised 7500) w.e.f 2002 was the 2nd upgradation under ACP on completion of 20 years. Placement in GP of 4600 in 1994 will not count for ACP/MACP. Accordingly 3rd upgradation is due on completion of 30 years/ date of inception of MACPS on 01.09.2008 to the GP of 5400.
    Sir,

    As per clarification No: 35 of ACP issued vide
    http://www.persmin.nic.in/WriteReadD...Vol.IV)-II.htm
    when individual is placed in higher scale on completion of certain length of service from previous scale , the placement will be treated as " PROMOTION/UPGRADATION ' for ACP . Hence in this case placment to higher scale done during 1994 from the scale of pay Rs.1640-2900 to scale of pay Rs.2375-3500 . Whether this placement to higher scale treated as promotion/upgradtion for ACP .

    With regards

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    The Placement to Higher Scale on 1-8-1994 is not treated by the department as promotion/upgradation. Otherwise he would not have been given 2nd ACP in 2002.

    SASI

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    Dear Sri Venkat,
    Thanks for your prompt response. I would like to have a reply on my first query regarding eligibility of MACP. A person appointed in OCtober, 1979 as LDC, promoted as UDC in 1982 and under time bound promotion scheme as available in the department placed in 1400 Scale now GP 4200 in 1996 got regular promotion in the grade pay of Rs.4200 in 2008, whether he is eligible for 3rd ACP from 1.9.2008 or from 1.10.2009 ie. after completion of 30 years of service. Also please enlighten as when the 3rd ACP is granted after 30 years of service and when it is granted after 30 years of service or 10 years of service in the same grade pay.
    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by SASI View Post
    The Placement to Higher Scale on 1-8-1994 is not treated by the department as promotion/upgradation. Otherwise he would not have been given 2nd ACP in 2002.

    SASI
    Sir, Placement to Higher scale during 1994 is not treated by the department as promotion/upgradation, but as per clarification No: 35 of ACP clarification ltr.DT: 18.7.2001 it to be treated as promotion/upgradation or Not.

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    First paragraph to the Clarification 35 states:

    “Where all the posts are placed in a higher scale of pay, with or without a change in the designation; without requirement of any new qualification for holding the post in the higher grade, not specified in the Recruitment Rules for the existing post, and without involving any change in responsibilities and duties, then placement of all the incumbents against such upgraded posts is not be treated as promotion/upgradation".

    Department might have considered the scale of STA I having these criteria and allowed 2nd ACP in 2002.

    SASI

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    Quote Originally Posted by CNU.SRE View Post
    Sir, Placement to Higher scale during 1994 is not treated by the department as promotion/upgradation, but as per clarification No: 35 of ACP clarification ltr.DT: 18.7.2001 it to be treated as promotion/upgradation or Not.

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    Dear Friend,

    In your original query you stated that the employee appointed in 1978 was granted 2nd upgradation under ACPS to the scale of 7500-12000 in 2002 on completion of 24 years in the entry grade. If this is true then this employee is entitled to 3rd upgradation under MACPS on completion of 30 years or from 01.09.2008 whichever is later.

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    Post MACP in the case of on request transfer to lower cadre

    Sir,
    Please clarify the latest order regarding macp by DOPT ,OM.NO.5034/3/2008-(D)(VOL.II) dated 11/11/2010.Weather those employees transfered unilaterally on request to lower cadre to another zone/unit will get benifit or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaleelethiyil View Post
    Sir,
    Please clarify the latest order regarding macp by DOPT ,OM.NO.5034/3/2008-(D)(VOL.II) dated 11/11/2010.Weather those employees transfered unilaterally on request to lower cadre to another zone/unit will get benifit or not.
    You are probably referring to OM No. 35034/3/2008-Estt(D) dated 01/11/2010 (http://persmin.gov.in/WriteReadData/...8-Estt-D-3.pdf).

    As per this clarification, the service in the previous organisation will be taken into account in the new organisation for the purpose of MACP.

    However, the clarification lacks clarity as to how cases of unilateral transfer to a lower scale will be dealt with. Perhaps an illustration, if included in the OM, would have cleared the picture.

    In my opinion what DOPT is trying to say that if a person after promotion/ACP in the previous organisation is transferred on his request to another organisation on a lower scale, then the 2nd and 3rd upgradations under MACP in the new organisation will take into account the service rendered in the previous organisation.

    Victor

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