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    Respected Members,

    I have a doubt regarding the LTC claim. The query is as follows:
    "Some Mr. X applies for LTC (Anywhere in India) to visit Goa in 2008 for block 2009-09. As normal course, he and his family is expected to complete the journey in six month period. But none of them actually performs journey.

    Now the same Mr. X again applied for LTC (Anywhere) for Madras in the extended year 2010 for block 2008-09 and submits undertaking that he has not availed the previously sanctioned LTC.

    As such nothing in CCS (LTC Rules) has come to my knowledge which clarifies regarding maturity of LTC.

    Pl guide if LTC under above circumstances (did not previously request for cancellation of LTC for GOA) can be re-sanctioned to visit Madras.


    The query revolves on the point whether LTC claim matures on:
    a. its availing OR
    b. on sanction (i.e. will it be treated as claimed/availed when the journey has not actually been performed and no claims submitted OR
    c. the claimant needs to indicate within some prescribed time frame regaridng not availing the the sanctioned LTC so that it may be cancelled. OR
    d. Undertaking indicated on fresh LTC request (that LTC for Goa visit was not availed) is sufficient to allow fresh sanction.

    Regards
    Hardeep

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    The LTC concession is treated as availed of only if a claim for reimbursement of expenditure is submitted within three months after the completion of the return journey, if no advance had been drawn. Failure to do so will entail forfeiture of the claim. In ths instant case, the person has not submitted the claim and hence it lapses. This automatically means that he has not either performed the journey or has performed the journey but does not wish to submit a claim. However, the admissibility of LTC for the block year 2008-09 remains intact and does not lapse.

    As far as the question of informing the admin about not undertaking the journey is concerned, this is only a technicality and should not be an issue. The admin has to only ensure that the person has NOT availed of the LTC for the said block year earlier.

    Victor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The LTC concession is treated as availed of only if a claim for reimbursement of expenditure is submitted within three months after the completion of the return journey, if no advance had been drawn. Failure to do so will entail forfeiture of the claim. In ths instant case, the person has not submitted the claim and hence it lapses. This automatically means that he has not either performed the journey or has performed the journey but does not wish to submit a claim. However, the admissibility of LTC for the block year 2008-09 remains intact and does not lapse.

    As far as the question of informing the admin about not undertaking the journey is concerned, this is only a technicality and should not be an issue. The admin has to only ensure that the person has NOT availed of the LTC for the said block year earlier.

    Victor

    Sir,

    Thanks for your valued comments. Being a new Member, i eagerly await to read those from the community.

    In the above quoted reply, you mention that there shall be forfeiture of claim, when not submitted within 3 months. As persons has not submitted claim (for either not performing journey or for not wishing to claim), it lapses. Can you please be more explicit, whats gonna be lapsing here : 1. The right of submission of claim being time barred OR 2. to reclaim the same LTC again on ground that it has not been claimed (claim submitted for re-imbursement) when it was sanctioned previously.


    With regards

    Hardeep

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    Quote Originally Posted by veraich View Post
    Respected Members,

    I have a doubt regarding the LTC claim. The query is as follows:
    "Some Mr. X applies for LTC (Anywhere in India) to visit Goa in 2008 for block 2009-09. As normal course, he and his family is expected to complete the journey in six month period. But none of them actually performs journey.

    Now the same Mr. X again applied for LTC (Anywhere) for Madras in the extended year 2010 for block 2008-09 and submits undertaking that he has not availed the previously sanctioned LTC.

    As such nothing in CCS (LTC Rules) has come to my knowledge which clarifies regarding maturity of LTC.

    Pl guide if LTC under above circumstances (did not previously request for cancellation of LTC for GOA) can be re-sanctioned to visit Madras.


    The query revolves on the point whether LTC claim matures on:
    a. its availing OR
    b. on sanction (i.e. will it be treated as claimed/availed when the journey has not actually been performed and no claims submitted OR
    c. the claimant needs to indicate within some prescribed time frame regaridng not availing the the sanctioned LTC so that it may be cancelled. OR
    d. Undertaking indicated on fresh LTC request (that LTC for Goa visit was not availed) is sufficient to allow fresh sanction.

    Regards
    Hardeep
    Dear friend,

    LTC to either home town or any place in India for any given block is proposed by the employee before undertaking the journey. There is no need to await its approval/sanction by the Head of Office. When the proposed journey availing LTC as per submitted proposal is not performed, the concession does not lapse. The concession will be available for availing by the employee till the last day of the grace period. The concession will be deemed to be availed only when the TA claim of LTC for the relevant block of 2/4 years is settled. This position holds good when no LTC advance is drawn.

    When LTC advance is drawn, the claim will have to be preferred within the period of 90 days. Delay in submission of the claim can be condoned by competent authority but the outside limit for settlement of the claim is 6 months. When no bills of claim are submitted or the bills are not settled within the time limit, for whatever reasons, the LTC advance drawn will be refundable with penal interest and the concession for that particular block will be forfeited. In cases where the LTC advance drawn is refunded to Government before the proposed date of outward journey of LTC with the intimation that the concession would be availed some time later, the LTC concession for that particular block will not lapse and will be available till the last day of the grace period of the block.

    To specifically answer your queries:
    a. The LTC for a particular block shall be deemed to be availed only when the relevant TA claim is settled.
    b. No sanction for availing LTC is needed. Only an advance intimation is adequate.
    c. On intimation of the intent to avail LTC, if the concession is not availed by preferring a bill of claim, the admissibility of the concession will not lapse. No need to justify/inform reasons for not availing the proposed concession.
    d. When the concession for a particular block is admissible, a simple intimation for availing LTC indicating the place of visit and period/duration/dates of visit would suffice.

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    Thats really a cool reply.

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    Hardeep

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