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  1. prabha
    Pl clarify the following
    1) During ACP 1999 one has to fulfill all promotional norms as per RR for upgradation . But if an employee does not fulfil required promotional norms on the date of eligibility, will he be granted upgradation on a later date when he becomes eligible as per promotional norms. This pertains to period prior to 31.8.2008
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  2. prabha
    clarify my ACP 1999 entitlement:-

    1. Appointed as Statistical Assistant in scale of pay of Rs. 425-700 (revised to 1400-2300 during Fourth Pay Com & to 5000-8000 during Fifth Pay Com) w.e.f. 09.01.1978
    2. Promoted to post of Senior Investigator in the scale of pay of 1640-2900 (revised to 5500-9000 during Fifth Pay Com) w.e.f. 02.11.1987
    3. Granted second financial upgradation to the scale of 6500-10500 w.e.f. 01.01.2002 after 24 years
    4. Promoted to Statistical Officer (6500-10500) without any pay fixation w.e.f. 16.01.2006
    5. Consequent on implementation of Sixth Pay Com, posts of Statistical Asst. & Senior Investigator (Group B Non-Gazetted) were merged w.e.f 01.01.2006 with GP of 4200 and the posts of Statistical Officer (6500-10500) were granted replacement scale of 7450-11500 GP 4600.
    In my opinion I am eligible for 2nd ACP as on 1.1.2006 due to merger of SA & SI & ignoring my promotion to SI & 3rd MACP w.e.f. 1.9.2008
  3. prabha
    As per 6th pay com air travel is entitled to officers having GP of 5400. I am posted as Statistical Officer with GP of Rs.4600 in Directorate of Economics and Statistics at PORT BLAIR , A & N ISLANDS.During LTC I am entitled for Delux Cabin in ship for travel from PORT BLAIR to CHENNAI/KOLKATA.But as per Ministry of Finance letter no/7(1)/E.Coord/2008 dated4.12.2008 has directed officers choose to travel by air provided the fare does not exceed the fare offered by Air India under LTC 80 sceme effective from 1.12.2008. the rates offered for different sectors are given in the above letter. In my opinion this relates to only those officers who are entitled for air fare. I am not entitled for air fare but for delux cabin of Rs.7640/- but my deptt has restricted my claim of Rs 7640/- to Rs.5775/- which is LTC 80 Fare of PORT BLAIR to CHENNAI. kindly send your opinion of my actual entitlement
  4. narayanan
    please refer to additional information that the corresponding GP during initial appt was 4200. In that case, I feel, your case will be as follows:

    On your initial appt (equivalent) GP 4200 from 9.1.78
    promotion to same grade Nov 87 - To be negleted
    On 1st ACP GP 4600 (upgraded to 4600) 9.1.88 (10 yrs)
    on 2nd ACP GP 4800 9.1.1998 (20 years)
    On 3rd ACP GP 5400 - 9.1.2008 (30 years) which will be effective from 1.9.2008

    I feel you are right.

    With regards,
    Narayanan
  5. prabha
    As per your illustration GP 2800 on my initial appt ie 9.1.78 which is corresponding to scale of pay of 4500-7000, but here I forgot to mention here 4500-7000 for Statistical Asstt. was revised to 5000-8000 during 5th pay com and the corresponding GP will now be 4200 .That means on promotion on 2.11.87 GP will be 4600 and on 2nd ACP GP will be 4800 & w.e.f 1.9.08 on 3rd ACP GP should be 5400. Pl confirm
  6. narayanan
    please refer to your doubt regarding GP on 3rd ACP eligible w.e.f. 1.9.2008 under MACPS.

    In my view, your case is covered under para 28(A(i) &(ii) for which a seperate illustration is given in the annexure to the memorandum. According to the provisions,

    On your initial appt (equivalent) GP 2800 from 9.1.78
    On promotion GP 4200 from Nov 87 (exact dt not given)
    On 2nd ACP GP 4200 (upgraded to 4600) from 1.1.02
    On 3rd ACP (after more than 20 years from the date of promotion) 4800 from 1.9.2008

    I feel, there won't be any chance of GP5400 instead of GP 4800 on 3rd ACP under MACPS.

    Narayanan
  7. prabha
    I was appointed as Statistical Asstt. on 9.1.1978 in the scale of pay 425-700 revised to 1400-2300 in 4th pay com. got promotion inNov. 1987 as Senior Investigator in the scale of 1640-2900 revised to 5500-9000 in 5th pay com. Got 2nd ACP 6500-10500 w.e.f 1.1.2002 after completion of 24 yrs of service.After implementation of 6th pay com. got grade pay of 4600/- as per part B of 6th pay com report. I have completed 30 yrs of service on 9.1.2008. I am due to get my 3rd ACP w.e.f 1.9.2008 as per MACP. Pl tell me what GP will I get after 3rd ACP. I think I will get 5400.
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