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abhijitdas_rlikol
02-09-2009, 12:39 PM
I had joined in the field office for the post of Stenographer Gr. III in the pre-revised scale Rs. 4000-100-6000/- on 25-06-1996 and my department granted 1st financial upgradation under ACP Scheme in the Pay Band Rs. 9300-34800 + Grade Pay Rs. 4200/- in my promotional post (Stenographer Gr. II) i.e. Rs. 5000-150-8000/- (pre-revised) w.e.f. 25-06-2008 before introduction of MACPs. My date of increment in the pre-revised scale 01-06-2008. My pay was Rs. 5200/- as on 1.1.2008 in the Basic pay of Rs. 4000-100-6000/- after giving annual increment. I only draw 40% of arrears.

As per MACP Order No. 34034/3/2008-Estt (D) dated 19-05-2009 under Para 6.1 of Annexure, my points are as follows:-

1) If I exercise option under Para 6.1.a of Annexure of MACP what is my fixation of pay, Grade Pay and date of annual increment.

2) If I exercise option under Para 6.1.b. of Annexure of MACP, what is my fixation of pay, Grade Pa and next date of annual increment.

3) PAO says that if I exercise option 6.1.a, I will get Grade Pay Rs. 2800/- and do not refund 40% of arrears but if I exercise option 6.1.b, I will get Grade Pay Rs. 4200/- and refund 40% of arrears.

Now please reply me the above points (1, 2 & 3) at the earliest.

aneesh
02-09-2009, 10:02 PM
I had joined in the field office for the post of Stenographer Gr. III in the pre-revised scale Rs. 4000-100-6000/- on 25-06-1996 and my department granted 1st financial upgradation under ACP Scheme in the Pay Band Rs. 9300-34800 + Grade Pay Rs. 4200/- in my promotional post (Stenographer Gr. II) i.e. Rs. 5000-150-8000/- (pre-revised) w.e.f. 25-06-2008 before introduction of MACPs. My date of increment in the pre-revised scale 01-06-2008. My pay was Rs. 5200/- as on 1.1.2008 in the Basic pay of Rs. 4000-100-6000/- after giving annual increment. I only draw 40% of arrears.

As per MACP Order No. 34034/3/2008-Estt (D) dated 19-05-2009 under Para 6.1 of Annexure, my points are as follows:-

1) If I exercise option under Para 6.1.a of Annexure of MACP what is my fixation of pay, Grade Pay and date of annual increment.

2) If I exercise option under Para 6.1.b. of Annexure of MACP, what is my fixation of pay, Grade Pa and next date of annual increment.

3) PAO says that if I exercise option 6.1.a, I will get Grade Pay Rs. 2800/- and do not refund 40% of arrears but if I exercise option 6.1.b, I will get Grade Pay Rs. 4200/- and refund 40% of arrears.

Now please reply me the above points (1, 2 & 3) at the earliest.

Dear friend there are different views on this subject.
1. Your pay will be fixed as on 1.1.2006 in the revised pay structure with GP 2400 and you may have to forego your ACP in 2008. DNI WILL BE July 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009.

2. Your pay will be fixed in the prerevised scale as on the date of ACP and given GP 4200 but you have to surrender 40 % arrears. This will be more beneficial in your case in the long run and life time. You will become eligible for next acp after 20 years to GP 4600 under MACPS.

3. Your PAO is partially correct. How you are eligible to GP 2800 as per your PAO as you are not covered under MACPS

Take another case in our office. Steno A got second ACP in July 2008 on completion of 24 years of service from prerevised scale of 5000 to 5500. No change in GP. Another Steno who has completed 20 years in Jan 2009 will get GP of Rs.4600. Junior steno will be getting more GP than senior. Not an anomaly as per MACPS orders. Members may express their views on this issue.

jitendraacr
03-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Dear friends
What I could understand from MACPS order, the option given at ^.1b does not means that you have to refund your arrears. In simple way, if one opts to fix his pay from the date of ACP after 1.1.06 though he has already opted for revised pay fixation w.e.f.1/1/06, his pay on date of ACP will be fixed by granting an increment of 3% + Grade Pay of promotional post itself(see next para) where it is explained that GP of promotional post will be given to those who has been granted ACP as per 12 years scheme. If however someone opt to fix his pay on the date of ACP without opting revised pay from 1/1/06, his pay on grant of ACP will be fixed first in pre revised scale and then after in revised pay structure. This option is beneficial to those whoose revised pay existing and promotional have a large difference such as from 6500 scale to 10500 scale(PS/SO to US). I think I am correct in my interpretation but I dont know whether I could explain it to you in proper way.
Now regarding Shri Aneesh statement of anomaly, I am to say that steno who has been granted ACP after completion of 24 years of service from 5000 scale to 5500 scale, he will also get GP of 4600 and not 4200 as stated by you. It is clear from the order itself.
Jitendra

aneesh
04-09-2009, 10:49 PM
Sir,
According to you, those who have opted for revised pay fixation from 1.1.06, their pay on ACP will be fixed by granting notional increment of 3 % plus GP of Promotional Post repeat GP of promotional post. I agree with you that it is beneficial to all. In that case no one will opt for 6.1.b as they are getting GP of next promotional post as per the provisions of ACP scheme of 1999. The question of loosing 40 % arrears will not arise at all.

Further, those becoming eligible for financial upgradation on or after 1.9.2008 will be getting hierarchy of GRADE PAYS and not GP of promotional post. If the hierarchy of GP and promotional post are one and the same eg., GP 2400 to 2800, the person getting acp between 1.1.2006 to 31.8.2008 will be at loss.

Please inform (a)the order / clause number under which one will get GP of 4600, in case of ACP from the scale of 5000 to 5500 (b) How to fix the pay of inservice candidates who are appointed on direct recruitment in the same dept. from the scale of 5000 to the higher post carrying scale 5500 or 6500. Will there be any change in their GP or they will get just 3 % increment.
Kindly offer your views

jitendraacr
05-09-2009, 09:36 PM
Dear Aneesh
Regarding (a), i am to inform that it is written in the MACPS order itself by giving an example. It is difficult for me to quote the exact no. of para since I have no order at my place but I am sure if you will go through the entire guidelines, you will find it easily. As regards (b), pay on direct recruitment will be fixed at the minimum of PB-2 with GP of Rs.4200/- without any change.
Jitendra

aneesh
05-09-2009, 09:46 PM
Dear Aneesh
Regarding (a), i am to inform that it is written in the MACPS order itself by giving an example. It is difficult for me to quote the exact no. of para since I have no order at my place but I am sure if you will go through the entire guidelines, you will find it easily. As regards (b), pay on direct recruitment will be fixed at the minimum of PB-2 with GP of Rs.4200/- without any change.
Jitendra

Dear Sir,

I had expected a detailed reply. Any how thank you for your response. Why not other members are offering their views on this issue. What has been done in other offices will definitely help in sorting out the matter.

Reg. (b) inservice candidate who have already earned 2 or 3 increments in the old scale 5000 will not get atleast pay protection and one additional increment on appointment to higher post by DR to 5500

Please enlighten