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sundarar
12-12-2008, 06:34 PM
Dear Sirs,

I came to know that for post-2006 but pre-Sep.2008 retirees Ministry of Personnel have made them eligible for 50% pension based on last pay drawn, for those who retired with 33+ years of service wef 1.1.2006. The new OM dt 11.12.08 is avaialble in website pensionersportal.gov.in. Let us celebrate the news which has come this day which is an auspicious day in south when we light lamps in our houses for seeking the blessings of Lord Subramanya like what we do during Deepavali in north.. As per this O.M.,
those who retired during 1.1.2006 to 2.9.2008 with qualifying service of 33 years will be eligible for full pension and those who retired during the period with less than 33 years qualifying service will receive on pro-rata basis. I will continue shortly.

Best Regards.

vnatarajan
12-12-2008, 06:49 PM
Dear Sundarar and all

You are correct. Shri Maheshwari has informed me through his email with an attachment of the order.He must have posted it on the RREWA website already. Our thanks are due to him also.

I hope this helps some of those people who were in the transition category!

Let us hope more things would follow!

Regards

vnatarajan

sundarar
12-12-2008, 07:30 PM
Respected Sir,

As you had rightly said, our thanks to all Pensioners for taking up all the related matters appropriately and particularly to the General Secretary of RREWA who also leading to Authorities with the plea of pensioners. Your own contribution individually and the Pensioners Forum at Chennai in the matters of Pensioners, is highly commendable and I salute all our Senior Members and Senior Citizens, Pensioners Federations who keep the fire burning so that light (Karthiga) exists all through the year in the Pensioners Community.

The Journey continues further with a new ray of hope for a New (Y)ear that will address our issues towards settlement.

Best Regards.

sudacgwb
12-12-2008, 09:56 PM
Happy to note the positive response by way of OM to the efforts of Maheswariji et.al of RREWA.

I request them to take the issue of paying the pension/family pension arrears in one instalment in case of those who are above 80 years of age, at least. I am sure they will succeed in their efforts, if they take up this cause.

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sundarar
14-12-2008, 08:31 AM
Dear Sirs, By taking a clue from a friend who raised query prior to issue of new O.M. dt. 11.12.2008 in staffcorner.com, I modified the query slightly.

disparity in the fixation of pension of post-2006 retiree.

Person A:
Length of service: 20 years
B.P. at the time of retirement:Rs.13500
Retired On: 31-01-06
Pension Fixed: Rs 9912

Person B:
Length of service: 20 years
B.P. at the time of retirement:Rs 13500
Retired On: 3-09-08
Pension Fixed: Rs 16355

Suppose in the case of pre-2006 retiree
COMMON FOR ALL RETIREE of pre-2006 WITH BASIC RS.12000 OR MORE AS PER EXISTING ORDERS
Min. Pension ensurable 7030 (based on min.pb)
Min. Pension (based on Min. of Pay in PB): 9066

Person C: [/b]
Length of service: 20 years
B.P. at the time of retirement:Rs 13500
Retired On: 31-12-05
Pension Fixed: Rs 6136 (Revised Pension = 13868)

Person D:
Length of service: 33 years
B.P. at the time of retirement:13500
Retired on 31.12.2005
Pension fixed: 10125 (Revised Pension = 22882)
Min. Pension ensurable: 11600
Min Pension ensurable by treating Minimum Pay in Pay Band:
Rs.14960

Person E:
Length of service: 33 years
B.P. at the time of retirement : 13500
B.P. in the revised structure: 32710
Retired on 31.12.2005 Pre-revised Pension: 10125
Min. Pension to be ensured based on revised structure: 16355.the fixation table 2.26 brings the maximum pension 22822.


If 20 years q.s. is extended to post-2006 retirees

At the same time Person A retired on 31.1.2006 will get 16355 if 20 year q.s. is extended for post-2006 retirees.

Person C will get 16355 if 20 year q.s. is extended for pre-2006 pensioners..

Person D is getting 22822 already by fitment table.

Person B will get 16355 as full pension for 20 years q.s. But the Person B has an unique opportunity to earn pay further and get his pension fixed based on the last pay drawn at the time of retirement although he might have completed the max. q.s. of 20 years.

Please note that Person A to C and E have been receiving the same minimum pension and in respect of Person D, he had completed 33 years before 2006 and hence he draws more pension as compared to similar person C who drew same pay but completed only 20 years.

No Grievance from any quarter in this stage. This is what to be called as MODIFIED PARITY AMONG SIMILARLY RETIRED PENSIONERS. ALL PENSIONERS GOT UNIFORM TREATMENT.

THE PERSON AT B IF WANT TO CONTINUE RATHER THAN RETIRE, CAN CONTINUE IN THE SERVICE AND THE ENTIRE 6 TH PAY COMMISSION REVISED PAY PACKAGE IS ACTUALLY MEANT FOR HIM TO PROVIDE CONTINUED ENHANCED QUALIFY PERFORMANCE BEYOND HIS 20 YEARS TOO...........



ULTIMATELY, THE FITMENT TABLE TAKES CARE OF PRE-2006 PENSIONERS PROVIDED THEY HAVE COMPLETED 33 YEARS QUALIFYING SERVICE AND IF THEIR PAY IS REVISED BY APPLYING 1.86 FACTOR.

FOR THOSE WHO COMPLETED 20 YEARS OR LESS Q.S. FOR PENSION PRIOR TO 2006/PRIOR TO SEP.2008, THEY OUGHT TO BE BROUGHT ON PAR WITH POST-SEP. 2008 RETIREES. SIMILAR EXAMPLE IN R/O PB-4 MAY HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT SEPARATELY.

The Answer lies in `LAST PAY BASED PENSION FOR 20 YEARS SERVICE
OR PRO-RATA BASIS AT ALL POINT OF TIME FOR ANY TYPE OF PENSIONERS,
and that is the reason, I am again and again praying for the same.

Best Regards.

sundarar
14-12-2008, 10:53 PM
Dear Sirs,

One more example came to my mind and I furnish hereunder:

Person F:
Length of service: 33 years
B.P. at the time of retirement : 13500
B.P. in the revised structure: 32710
Retired on 31.12.2002 Pre-revised Pension: 6750
Revised Pension as per 2.26 formula: 15255
Min. Pension based on revised structure: 16355.

Min. Pension as per 50% of Min. of PB + GP = (15600+7600)/2
= 23200/2
= 11600

Min. Pension as per 50% of min. pay in PB + GP = 14690.

As a Pre-2006 Pensioner (and also Pre-2004 Pensioner), his pension
after 2006 if determined based on corresponding revised pay to the pay which he drawn last at the time of retirement, will be Rs.16355.

He would have completed 33 years. If Govt. is reducing the max. q.s. as 20 years he may not get much benefit. However, if last pay drawn also
gets revised on par with employees to determine the revised 50% of last pay drawn, he will get benefit as above, and this is the real intention in
benefitting both who completed 20 years or other wise pro-rata, as well as the one who completed 33 years, by applying the revised pay of Last pay drawn to determine the 50% of revised pay that will virtually become revised pension. Please note that it is above 2.26 formula and rest of the minimum factors. and hence the suggestion.

Best Regards.

asreedhar
29-12-2008, 01:27 PM
The OM under discussion doesn't satisfy the employees who retired between 1.1.2006 and 2.9.2008 fully; it only gives you the benefit of drawing the best of two ie., average emoluments or last pay drawn whichever is higher. We can celebrate only if the date of effect is changed to 1.1.2006 and not 2.9.2008 i.e., date of issue of orders. Can the pensioners association take up this issue.:)

asreedhar
29-12-2008, 01:32 PM
Dear Sirs,

I came to know that for post-2006 but pre-Sep.2008 retirees Ministry of Personnel have made them eligible for 50% pension based on last pay drawn, for those who retired with 33+ years of service wef 1.1.2006. The new OM dt 11.12.08 is avaialble in website pensionersportal.gov.in. Let us celebrate the news which has come this day which is an auspicious day in south when we light lamps in our houses for seeking the blessings of Lord Subramanya like what we do during Deepavali in north.. As per this O.M.,
those who retired during 1.1.2006 to 2.9.2008 with qualifying service of 33 years will be eligible for full pension and those who retired during the period with less than 33 years qualifying service will receive on pro-rata basis. I will continue shortly.

Best Regards.

Dear Sir
We can celebrate only if the date of effect changed on wholesale basis from 2.9.2008 to 1.1.2006 - I don't understand the discrimination within 6th PC recommendations - a person who retired on 2.9.2008 gets huge benefit whereas a person who retires a day earlier is made to suffer. The PensionersAssociations (RREWA etc.) should take up this matter. :):)

With Regards
Sreedhar
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kkhameedkutty
29-12-2008, 11:05 PM
Dear Mr. Sreedhar,

The OM dated 11-12-2008 is totally discriminatory as it reiterates that full pension is not applcable to those who are having less than 33 years service. Please note that it would have been correct if the order said full pension is not appicable to those who are having less than 28 years of service. It looks this order is issued only to provide double benefits of both CCS Pension Rule 1972 (for full pension and additional gratuity for 5 years) and also that of revised Pension Rules 2008 (for calculation of pension based on last pay drawn) in favour of those who are having service between 28 to 33+ years and retired between 1-1-2006 and 2-9-2008 by totally ignoring those who are having 20-28 years of service. Instead of removing a major anomoly of imposing CCS Pension rule 1972 on few post 1-1-2006 pensioners, DoP & PW is again making mistakes which results in denial of full pension to post 1-1-2006 retirees with 20-28 years of service just for the purpose of retining additional benefits granted to post 1-1-2006 / pre 2-9-2008 pensioners with 28-33 years service which is even more than a post 2-9-2008 pensioner with 28-33 years of service enjoy.
This order will not have any validity if taken to legal authorities unless complete benefit mentioned in the order is made applicable to all who retired after 1-1-2006. Reason is, because of applying both CCS Pension Rule 1972 and Revised Pension Rule 2008 together only for calculation of pension of post 1-1-2006 / pre 2-9-2008 retirees having less than 33 years of service, some pensioners get double benefits by putting some others on loss. Both caculation of pension based on average of alst 10 months pay and adding 5 years grace period to 20+ years retiree are as per CCS Pension Rule 1972. How government can implement only half portion of the rule from a previous date???

If DoP & PW wanted to retain additional benefits to those who are having 28-33 years of service, applicability of either CCS Pension Rule 1972 or CCS Pension Rule 2008 should have been made as an option for the concerned employee to select, instead of imposing an old rule on few people for their disadvantage.

Please note that effective date of Revised CCS Pension Rules 2008 is 1-1-2006.