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Ramnath
11-07-2011, 04:00 PM
For friends of field office who are in 4200 grade pay (who were in 5000-8000 and 5500-9000 pre-revised basic),
I request you to represent to your department to make 5500-9000 scale to be placed in 4600 Grade pay. If not acceded to, then you may choose the legal option.
Here, even unions (especially Railway) appear to be not knowing the fact. They are idiotically demanding to grant atleast 3% increment for those in 5000 & 5500 merged (feeder & promotion cadre) who have been placed in 4200 Grade pay, on their promotion. This demand is ridiculous.

The demand should have been:-
1) Either merge these two posts (in two different designations) into one single designation/name/nomenclature by restructuring.
OR
2) Grade 4200 grade pay for feeder (5000 basic) & 4600 Grade pay (5500 basic) for promotion cadre.

But setting these things side, when the rule for MACP itself states that MACP benefit will be the same as that of Promotion benefit (here I mean 3% increment in the Pay band and next higher immediate grade pay). Only in a few cases the Grade Pay on promotion will be even higher than MACP benefit for example, person in 2400 grade pay gets 2800 on MACP (if MACP preceeds promotion) and on promotion he gets 4200 grade pay (Grade pay of the promotion post).

See reproduction of Para-4 of Annexure-I of MACP Order dt.19.5.2009 below:
4. Benefit of pay fixation available at the time of regular promotion shall also be allowed at the time of financial upgradation under the Scheme. Therefore, the pay shall be raised by 3% of the total pay in the pay band and the grade pay drawn before such upgradation. There shall, however, be no further fixation of pay at the time of regularpromotion if it is in the same grade pay as granted under MACPS. However, at the timeof actual promotion if it happens to be in a post carrying higher grade pay than what isavailable under MACPS, no pay fixation would be available and only difference of grade
pay would be made available. To illustrate, in case a Government Servant joins as a direct recruit in the grade pay of Rs. 1900 in PB-l and he gets no promotion till
completion of 10 years of service, he will be granted financial upgradation under MACPS in the next higher grade pay of Rs. 2000 and his pay will be fixed by granting him one
increment plus the difference of grade pay (i.e. Rs. 100). After availing financial upgradation under MACPS, if the Government servant gets his regular promotion in the
hierarchy of his cadre, which is to the grade of Rs. 2400, on regular promotion, he will only be granted the difference of grade pay between Rs. 2000 and Rs. 2400. No additional increment win be granted at this stage.
When this being the situation, demanding a benefit on promotion which does not even equal even MACP benefit, is absolutely irrational, illogical, idiotic. Hence, Railway employees, pl. take efforts to restrain your leaders from making such idiotic demands.

As far as I am concerned, the OA for 4600 Grade pay is to be filed this week positively.

My best wishes for success in our fight for justice.

Ramnath

ramadasg
12-07-2011, 12:03 PM
Dear Shri Ramnath,

I hope you remember me. I am ramadas. How are you

I have been promoted under ACP SCheme from the Pre revised scale of pay of Rs.5000-8000 to 5500-9000 on 17th January, 2007. I have been granted the GP of 4600 only from 1.9.2008. I was surprised to see my promotion order. I thought I will
be eligible for 4600 gp from 17.1.2007 the date on which I was given ACP. In my same post those who are eligible in the Central Secretariat are getting the fixation
of 18460 (7450 x 1.86 +4600). I opted for GP 4600 from 17.1.2007, the date on which I am eligible for grand of IInd ACP. They say that I will be loosing my arrears.
I would like to know from you whether two types of FR 22 is there or not. While I will be loosing my arrears and benefitted only the increment in the old scale of 5500-9000 fixation, those in the CSS are given 18460 fixation. As opined by you, the Railway people are not knowing this fact. We have to highlight this.

REgards

G. Ramadas


For friends of field office who are in 4200 grade pay (who were in 5000-8000 and 5500-9000 pre-revised basic),
I request you to represent to your department to make 5500-9000 scale to be placed in 4600 Grade pay. If not acceded to, then you may choose the legal option.
Here, even unions (especially Railway) appear to be not knowing the fact. They are idiotically demanding to grant atleast 3% increment for those in 5000 & 5500 merged (feeder & promotion cadre) who have been placed in 4200 Grade pay, on their promotion. This demand is ridiculous.

The demand should have been:-
1) Either merge these two posts (in two different designations) into one single designation/name/nomenclature by restructuring.
OR
2) Grade 4200 grade pay for feeder (5000 basic) & 4600 Grade pay (5500 basic) for promotion cadre.

But setting these things side, when the rule for MACP itself states that MACP benefit will be the same as that of Promotion benefit (here I mean 3% increment in the Pay band and next higher immediate grade pay). Only in a few cases the Grade Pay on promotion will be even higher than MACP benefit for example, person in 2400 grade pay gets 2800 on MACP (if MACP preceeds promotion) and on promotion he gets 4200 grade pay (Grade pay of the promotion post).

See reproduction of Para-4 of Annexure-I of MACP Order dt.19.5.2009 below:
4. Benefit of pay fixation available at the time of regular promotion shall also be allowed at the time of financial upgradation under the Scheme. Therefore, the pay shall be raised by 3% of the total pay in the pay band and the grade pay drawn before such upgradation. There shall, however, be no further fixation of pay at the time of regularpromotion if it is in the same grade pay as granted under MACPS. However, at the timeof actual promotion if it happens to be in a post carrying higher grade pay than what isavailable under MACPS, no pay fixation would be available and only difference of grade
pay would be made available. To illustrate, in case a Government Servant joins as a direct recruit in the grade pay of Rs. 1900 in PB-l and he gets no promotion till
completion of 10 years of service, he will be granted financial upgradation under MACPS in the next higher grade pay of Rs. 2000 and his pay will be fixed by granting him one
increment plus the difference of grade pay (i.e. Rs. 100). After availing financial upgradation under MACPS, if the Government servant gets his regular promotion in the
hierarchy of his cadre, which is to the grade of Rs. 2400, on regular promotion, he will only be granted the difference of grade pay between Rs. 2000 and Rs. 2400. No additional increment win be granted at this stage.
When this being the situation, demanding a benefit on promotion which does not even equal even MACP benefit, is absolutely irrational, illogical, idiotic. Hence, Railway employees, pl. take efforts to restrain your leaders from making such idiotic demands.

As far as I am concerned, the OA for 4600 Grade pay is to be filed this week positively.

My best wishes for success in our fight for justice.

Ramnath