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Hyd_AG_Employee
23-05-2011, 10:54 PM
Dear friends....I wish to undertake journey on LTC and visit Andaman Islands including Havelock in the month of October 2011. Now my question is to what rate will my claim be restricted if i travel by Private airlines from Chennai to Port blair. My Grade pay is 4200/- and hence my entitlement is not by air. It is to mention in this regard there are two ships that sail from Chennai to Port Blair and one of them charges Rs.5400/- and the other charges 6700/- per head per side. The fare by air is about 8500/-. Will my claim be restricted to 5400/- or 6700/- kindly let me know and if any orders exist please quote. On my front some friend told me that though there are 2 ships from chennai to port blair it is only one ship that sails on a given day and my claim would be restricted to the rate of the ship that sails on the day i perform journey. Kindly clarify. Thanking you all well in advance.

RKPATHAK
24-05-2011, 09:37 AM
Kindly check low fare airlines so that you may travel within the entitlement

Hyd_AG_Employee
24-05-2011, 04:21 PM
Kindly check low fare airlines so that you may travel within the entitlement

Dear RK Thanks for your kind reply. Well the thing is i want to get a clear picture regarding the reimbursement. i.e will the claim be restricted to Rs.5400/- or 6700/-. I need to show paper proof to my office people./ Thanks once again

Victor
24-05-2011, 04:34 PM
As per OM dated 16/9/2010 (http://finmin.nic.in/the_ministry/dept_expenditure/notification/tour_ltc/Guideline_airtravel_16sept2010.pdf), LTC can be availed by Air India ONLY. Relaxation is available only in the case of LTC to J&K where private airlines is admissible to all categories of govt. servants. Kindly check with your admin before proceeding on LTC.

Victor

Hyd_AG_Employee
25-05-2011, 01:38 PM
As per OM dated 16/9/2010 (http://finmin.nic.in/the_ministry/dept_expenditure/notification/tour_ltc/Guideline_airtravel_16sept2010.pdf), LTC can be availed by Air India ONLY. Relaxation is available only in the case of LTC to J&K where private airlines is admissible to all categories of govt. servants. Kindly check with your admin before proceeding on LTC.

Victor

Dear Victor Sir, Thanks for your reply........... The O M quoted by you is for officials who are ENTITLED for Air travel and does not pertain to officials who ARE NOT ENTITLED FOR AIR TRAVEL (I think you only told me this first). The clairification in this regard is obtained from the Ministry of finance. So everybody drawning a GP of less than 5400/- can travel by any airlines and the claim would be restricted to their entitled class of fare by rail. However for travel to NER from Kolkatta nobody is allowed to travel by Private airlines and everybody should go with indian airlines/air-india. My question over here is

Hyd_AG_Employee
25-05-2011, 03:13 PM
My question over here.... the restriction of ship fare would be limited to which ship and why ? especially when there is a difference in fare and both these ships are run by Shipping corporation of india limited. One ship charges 5400/- and the other about 6700/- I know this is a typical query but please try to get me the exact news with OMs if any...........this information would help even CVSS KISOR as well.....Thanks once again to the GURU of GCONNECT.....GOOD DAY

prashantha
18-07-2011, 03:13 PM
As per rule , the Officer drawing grade pay 4200 is entitled to First/"A" cabin class. Your claim will be restricted to the rate of the ship that sails on the day you perform the journey.
pnk

Hyd_AG_Employee
18-07-2011, 03:31 PM
thanks for the info. Do u have ny OM to support this ?

prashantha
20-07-2011, 10:51 AM
DoPT OM No. F.No. 31011/4/2008/Est(A) dt. 23/9/08 & 19030/3/2008-E 1V dt
23/9/08 .
pnk

Hyd_AG_Employee
25-07-2011, 02:20 PM
Thank u so much for being so prompt. However, i am sorry to say i was not able to get the answer to my question after going through both the O.Ms quoted by you. Please see if u could help .... Regards... Your claim will be restricted to the rate of the ship that sails on the day you perform the journey (OM to support this point ...)

DoPT OM No. F.No. 31011/4/2008/Est(A) dt. 23/9/08 & 19030/3/2008-E 1V dt
23/9/08 .
pnk

aneesh
25-07-2011, 10:59 PM
Sir,

Can you please forward the clarification received from MOF for our reference. Any order have been issued or only your office has received clarification. Please reply


Dear Victor Sir, Thanks for your reply........... The O M quoted by you is for officials who are ENTITLED for Air travel and does not pertain to officials who ARE NOT ENTITLED FOR AIR TRAVEL (I think you only told me this first). The clairification in this regard is obtained from the Ministry of finance. So everybody drawning a GP of less than 5400/- can travel by any airlines and the claim would be restricted to their entitled class of fare by rail. However for travel to NER from Kolkatta nobody is allowed to travel by Private airlines and everybody should go with indian airlines/air-india. My question over here is

prashantha
26-07-2011, 04:37 PM
From what i have heard, only one ship sails at a time on a given day, there is no OM to support this. You can confirm the dates & further querises, from Shipping Corpn of India.
pnk

sinha_audit
27-07-2011, 10:15 PM
What about the air journey on a day when (hypothetically) there is no sailing? It may be possible.

prashantha
28-07-2011, 10:21 AM
For Officials who are not entitled for Air-travel, their claim will be restricted to entitled class in Ship rates.
pnk

Hyd_AG_Employee
28-07-2011, 03:36 PM
Same point again prashantha....fare by one ship is 7500 and other is 5600/-. Air fare is about 8500/- so the restriction would be to 5600/-
or 7500/- ????????

For Officials who are not entitled for Air-travel, their claim will be restricted to entitled class in Ship rates.
pnk

Hyd_AG_Employee
28-07-2011, 03:36 PM
Sinha Ji.....what ever the answer to my question............... ur point is simply GGGGRRRREEEEAAAATTTT


What about the air journey on a day when (hypothetically) there is no sailing? It may be possible.

Hyd_AG_Employee
28-07-2011, 03:41 PM
Aneesh..... we called for a clarification from MOF and received the reply. There is no general circular in this regard.
Sir,

Can you please forward the clarification received from MOF for our reference. Any order have been issued or only your office has received clarification. Please reply

sinha_audit
28-07-2011, 07:35 PM
((The Govt had lately allowed LTC air journeys by the non-entitled employees to be limited to the entitled class of Rajdhani/Shatabdi train fares. Rajdhani/Shatabdi train fares are higher than that of other trains of the same distances/routes.))

I wonder whether the same principle may be adopted by the controlling officer to limit the air journey to the Andamans by higher ship fare on hypothetical basis, just the same as in the case of limitations to train fares; provided of course EITHER (a) both ships sail on the date of air travel OR (b) none of them sails.

The matter may also be taken up at an appropriate level, given that there is no clear ruling in this regard.

Alok Sinha.