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beno
19-02-2011, 06:25 PM
My senior joined into Govt. Service in the same post held by me during February, 1981. The pre revised ( i.e. 4th Pay Commission ) scale for our post is 2000-60-2300-75-3200 this scale was later on altered as 6500 – 200 – 10500 by the Fifth Pay Commission. Consequent to the implementation of the Sixth Pay Commission, this scale was merged with pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500 and was granted Pay Band [email protected] with Grade Pay 4600. As per our Recruitment Rules, our only promotional post also has the pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500. My senior got his First ACP on 9th August, 1999 as per the then ACP Scheme and was placed in the pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500 and even after coming into force of the Sixth Pay Commission also he was placed in [email protected] 9300 – 34800 with Grade Pay 4600 which is just equal to the pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500. Now, myself who joined in the same post during February, 1996 has been granted First MACP and my senior who joined in the same post during February, 1981 has been granted Second MACP and both of us has been granted Grade pay 4800/= w.e.f. 1st September, 2008.

Our above said promotional post is the only promotional avenue available for us in our entire career ( it is a stagnated post )

More over condition 7 of Annexure I of old ACP Scheme reads as follows:-

“Financial upgradation under the Scheme shall be given to the next higher grade in accordance with the existing hierarchy in a cadre/category of posts without creating new posts for the purpose. However, in case of isolated posts, in the absence of defined hierarchical grades, financial upgradation shall be given by the Ministries/Departments concerned in the immediately next higher (standard/common) pay-scales as indicated in Annexure-II (http://persmin.nic.in/WriteReadData/Estt/ACP_Scheme_No.35034_1_97-Estt(D).htm#ANNEXURE-II#ANNEXURE-II) which is in keeping with Part-A of the First Schedule annexed to the Notification dated September 30, 1997 of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Expenditure). For instance, incumbents of isolated posts in the pay-scale S-4, as indicated in Annexure-II (http://persmin.nic.in/WriteReadData/Estt/ACP_Scheme_No.35034_1_97-Estt(D).htm#ANNEXURE-II#ANNEXURE-II), will be eligible for the proposed two financial upgradations only to the pay-scales S-5 and S-6. Financial upgradation on a dynamic basis (i.e. without having to create posts in the relevant scales of pay) has been recommended by the Fifth Central Pay Commission only for the incumbents of isolated posts which have no avenues of promotion at all. Since financial upgradations under the Scheme shall be personal to the incumbent of the isolated post, the same shall be filled at its original level (pay-scale) when vacated. Posts which are part of a well-defined cadre shall not qualify for the ACP Scheme on ‘dynamic’ basis. The ACP benefits in their case shall be granted conforming to the existing hierarchical structure only;”
Kindly inform whether the action of our Department is in order.

tvenkatam
20-02-2011, 12:20 PM
My senior joined into Govt. Service in the same post held by me during February, 1981. The pre revised ( i.e. 4th Pay Commission ) scale for our post is 2000-60-2300-75-3200 this scale was later on altered as 6500 – 200 – 10500 by the Fifth Pay Commission. Consequent to the implementation of the Sixth Pay Commission, this scale was merged with pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500 and was granted Pay Band [email protected] with Grade Pay 4600. As per our Recruitment Rules, our only promotional post also has the pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500. My senior got his First ACP on 9th August, 1999 as per the then ACP Scheme and was placed in the pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500 and even after coming into force of the Sixth Pay Commission also he was placed in [email protected] 9300 – 34800 with Grade Pay 4600 which is just equal to the pre revised scale of 7450 – 225 – 11500. Now, myself who joined in the same post during February, 1996 has been granted First MACP and my senior who joined in the same post during February, 1981 has been granted Second MACP and both of us has been granted Grade pay 4800/= w.e.f. 1st September, 2008.

Our above said promotional post is the only promotional avenue available for us in our entire career ( it is a stagnated post )

More over condition 7 of Annexure I of old ACP Scheme reads as follows:-

“Financial upgradation under the Scheme shall be given to the next higher grade in accordance with the existing hierarchy in a cadre/category of posts without creating new posts for the purpose. However, in case of isolated posts, in the absence of defined hierarchical grades, financial upgradation shall be given by the Ministries/Departments concerned in the immediately next higher (standard/common) pay-scales as indicated in Annexure-II (http://persmin.nic.in/WriteReadData/Estt/ACP_Scheme_No.35034_1_97-Estt(D).htm#ANNEXURE-II#ANNEXURE-II) which is in keeping with Part-A of the First Schedule annexed to the Notification dated September 30, 1997 of the Ministry of Finance (Department of Expenditure). For instance, incumbents of isolated posts in the pay-scale S-4, as indicated in Annexure-II (http://persmin.nic.in/WriteReadData/Estt/ACP_Scheme_No.35034_1_97-Estt(D).htm#ANNEXURE-II#ANNEXURE-II), will be eligible for the proposed two financial upgradations only to the pay-scales S-5 and S-6. Financial upgradation on a dynamic basis (i.e. without having to create posts in the relevant scales of pay) has been recommended by the Fifth Central Pay Commission only for the incumbents of isolated posts which have no avenues of promotion at all. Since financial upgradations under the Scheme shall be personal to the incumbent of the isolated post, the same shall be filled at its original level (pay-scale) when vacated. Posts which are part of a well-defined cadre shall not qualify for the ACP Scheme on ‘dynamic’ basis. The ACP benefits in their case shall be granted conforming to the existing hierarchical structure only;”
Kindly inform whether the action of our Department is in order.


Dear Friend,

Your senior whose entry into service is in February 1981 was entitled to 1st upgradation to 7450-11500 in August 1999 and to 2nd upgradation to 7500-12000 in February 2005 (on completion of 24 years) under ACPS. His grade pay in the revised pay structure as on 01.01.2006 should have correspondingly been 4800. Under MACPS he is entitled to the upgradation to 5400 in PB-2 in February 2011 on completion of 30 years of service.
In your case also the upgradation to the grade pay of 4800 was due on completion of 12 years of service in February 2008 under the ACPS. 2nd upgradation under MACPS will fall due only on completion of 20 years of service.

Victor
20-02-2011, 08:03 PM
The grant of 2nd ACP in r/o your senior will be subject to Clarification Nos. 31 & 32 at (http://persmin.gov.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02est/ACP_Scheme_F.No.35034_1_97-Estt(D)(Vol.IV).htm).

However, your senior will be eligible for MACP-III to GP 5400 (PB-2) in Feb 2011 on completion of 30 years of regular service.

Further, you will be eligible to 1st ACP to the scale of 7450-11500 from Feb 2008 (Revised GP 4600) and 1st MACP to GP 4800 w.e.f. 1/9/2008 (on upgradation of 6500 scale and ignoring the 1st ACP to 4600).

Victor

beno
20-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Thank u Mr. T.Venkatam and Mr. Victor, in my view the first ACP Granted to my senior in the scale of 7450- 11500 should be ignored as point 5 of Anexure I to Macp OM reads as follows:-


Promotions earned/upgradation~ granted under the ACP Scheme in the past to
those grades which now carry the same grade pay due to merger of pay
scales/upgradations of posts recommended by the Sixth Pay Commission shall be
ignored for the purpose of granting upgradations under Modified ACPS.


The pre-revised hierarchy (in ascending order) in a particular organization was as
under:-
Rs.5000-8000, Rs.5500-9000m & Rs.6500-10500
(a) A Government servant who was recruited in the hierarchy in the pre-revised pay
scale Rs. 5000-8000 and who did not get a promotion even after 25 years of
service prior to 1.1.2006,in his case as on 1.1.2006he would have got two financial
upgradations under ACP to the next grades in the hierarchy of his organization,
Le., to the pre-revised scales of Rs. 5500-9000 and Rs. 6500-10500.
(b) Another Government servant recruited in the same hierarchy in the pre-revised
scale of Rs. 5000-8000 has also completed about 25 years of service, but he got

two promotions to the next higher grades of Rs. 5500-9000

& Rs. 6500-10500

during this period.
ln the case of both (a) and (b) above, the promotions/financial upgradations
granted under ACP to the pre-revised scales of Rs. 5500-9000 and Rs. 6500-10500 prior
to 1.1.2006will be ignored on account of merger of the pre-revised scales of Rs. 5000-
8000, Rs. 5500-9000 and Rs. 6500-10500 recommended by the Sixth


cpe. As per CCS

(RP) Rules, both of them will be granted grade pay of Rs. 4200 in the pay band PB-2.
After the implementation of MACPS, two financial upgradations will be granted both in
the case of (a) and (b) above to the next higher grade pays of Rs. 4600 and Rs. 4800 in
the pay band PB-2.
Please clarify.

aneesh
21-02-2011, 12:03 AM
I ACP/Promotion from 5000 to 5500 will be ignored. They are eligible for 2 acp from 4200 to 4600 and 4800 as written by you which is correct.

beno
21-02-2011, 10:44 AM
Thank U Mr. Aneesh. I think u have not gone thru the whole matter from the begining and probabily not gone thru Mr. Victor's reply. Kindly let me know whether the First ACP granted to my Senior in the pre revised scale of 7450-11500 ( present grade pay of 4600/= )should be ignored. Or in shorth whether point 5 of Anessure I to Macp OM dt. 19th may, 2009 is applicable in the present case.

Ms. Srivastava
22-02-2011, 08:24 PM
I ACP/Promotion from 5000 to 5500 will be ignored. They are eligible for 2 acp from 4200 to 4600 and 4800 as written by you which is correct.

Hello, the discussion pertains to my case as well. I joined at 1400-2300 in 1991( 4th CPC, 4500-7000), promoted in 1998 at 5500-9000. till now no promotion or ACP hence gettting GP of 4200. will my 1st ACP ( prmotion) be ignored and am i eligible for 4600 since 2006 and 4800 since 2008 as per MACP??. In my dept, the heirarchy is 4500-7000, 5500-9000, 8000-13500 and 10,500-1500.

Please guide

Victor
23-02-2011, 09:23 AM
Hello, the discussion pertains to my case as well. I joined at 1400-2300 in 1991( 4th CPC, 4500-7000), promoted in 1998 at 5500-9000. till now no promotion or ACP hence gettting GP of 4200. will my 1st ACP ( prmotion) be ignored and am i eligible for 4600 since 2006 and 4800 since 2008 as per MACP??. In my dept, the heirarchy is 4500-7000, 5500-9000, 8000-13500 and 10,500-1500.

Please guide

You will be eligible for MACP-II to GP 4600 on completion of 10 years of regular service (on or after 1/9/2008) in the scale of 5500-9000/GP 4200.

Victor

beno
23-02-2011, 06:08 PM
I am reposting my query, Pl. give your views on the matter.i

Thank U Mr. Aneesh. I think u have not gone thru the whole matter from the begining and probabily not gone thru Mr. Victor's reply. Kindly let me know whether the First ACP granted to my Senior in the pre revised scale of 7450-11500 ( present grade pay of 4600/= )should be ignored. Or in shorth whether point 5 of Anessure I to Macp OM dt. 19th may, 2009 is applicable in the present case.