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Ramasamy59
19-12-2009, 06:03 PM
I availed 4 year LTC to North East (Shillong) for the block year 2006-2009. Now I wish to go to North East (Gangtak) by converting one of my Home Town LTC for the block year 2010-2011. Can I avail the LTC again to North East?

tvenkatam
19-12-2009, 07:14 PM
I availed 4 year LTC to North East (Shillong) for the block year 2006-2009. Now I wish to go to North East (Gangtak) by converting one of my Home Town LTC for the block year 2010-2011. Can I avail the LTC again to North East?

Dear Friend,

The facility of four year LTC may be availed for travel to any place in India including North East irrespective of the fact whether or not you availed the assistance to the same place even on earlier occasions.

haringp
21-12-2009, 11:29 AM
NE order is valid till 1st may 2010.
it allows conversion of only one HTC to travel to NE.
Since you availed All india LTC for Shillong , you shall be entiled for travel to Gangtok against HTC 2010-2011.
only date restriction needs to be followed.

svsankar
22-12-2009, 09:00 PM
I availed 4 year LTC to North East (Shillong) for the block year 2006-2009. Now I wish to go to North East (Gangtak) by converting one of my Home Town LTC for the block year 2010-2011. Can I avail the LTC again to North East?

The travel shall be by entitled mode and not by air specifically given for NE. i.e., if you are group B you can travel by air from your nearest airport to north east and if you are group c you can travel be air from kolkata or guwahati to north east. Have you availed the air travel in your all india ltc earlier.

Ramasamy59
25-12-2009, 11:48 AM
Yes. I had availed earlier NE LTC to Shillong and travelled by Air from Delhi as I am an Group B employee.

svsankar
26-12-2009, 07:23 PM
Dear Sir,
If that is so you have already completed the special concession for LTC travel to NE by AIR. You can avail All India LTC for the block 2010-2013 to travel to NE but you cannot avail NE air travel facility from Delhi. you cannot avail LTC to Gangtok against Home Town of 2010-2011.
with regards,
svsankar

svsankar
26-12-2009, 07:54 PM
Dear Sir,
You can very well do so but not against the NE concessional travel facility by Air from your place of duty. This you can do it under the normal All India LTC rules only. I hope my point is clear to you. There are two methods of availing LTC to North East.
(1) By availing the special concessional travel by air from your native place to North East as you belong to Group B.
(2) By normal means that is going by entitled class i.e., II AC train to North East.
S. No. (1) has been availed by you against 2006-2009 All India LTC. S. No.(2) you can avail against 2010-2013 4 year block foregoing the 2010-2011 home town LTC.
regards,
sankar

jitendraacr
26-12-2009, 10:25 PM
Dear Ramasamy
I hope you have cleared your doubt till now. I fully agree with the reply of Shri TVenkatam. You can claim NER special facility by surrendering one of your available home town LTC till May 2010.
Jitendra

svsankar
27-12-2009, 07:41 PM
Respected Sir,
Mr Ramasamy has availed NER special facility against All India LTC 2006-2009 as per clarification No.8 of DOPT OM dated:14-5-2008 as he should have already availed one home town LTC in 2006-2007. NER special facility is available to only one city, the words"a city in North East" in DOPT OM dated:02-5-2008 is relevant. I request
Mr Venkatam Sir to kindly clarify the point to Mr. Ramasamy once again please.
with regards
svsankar.

aneesh
27-12-2009, 10:34 PM
Respected Sir,
Mr Ramasamy has availed NER special facility against All India LTC 2006-2009 as per clarification No.8 of DOPT OM dated:14-5-2008 as he should have already availed one home town LTC in 2006-2007. NER special facility is available to only one city, the words"a city in North East" in DOPT OM dated:02-5-2008 is relevant. I request
Mr Venkatam Sir to kindly clarify the point to Mr. Ramasamy once again please.
with regards
svsankar.

I confirm the views of Mr. SV Sankar, Mr. Ramasamy is not eligible of NER LTC by Air, as he has already availed the same for the block 2006 09. However he is not clear whether he has availed the same against the HTC of 2008-09. He can avail any where in India LTC for the block 2010 13 but not eligible for reimbursement of airfare.

tvenkatam
28-12-2009, 06:20 PM
I availed 4 year LTC to North East (Shillong) for the block year 2006-2009. Now I wish to go to North East (Gangtak) by converting one of my Home Town LTC for the block year 2010-2011. Can I avail the LTC again to North East?

Dear Friends,

The query posed by Mr. Ramasamy seemed very simple. He availed LTC to a city in NE against the 4 year block of 2006-09. He wanted to know whether he can again visit NE against the 2 year block of 2010-11.

Under the normal rules of LTC, there is no bar to visit the same place more than once availing the facility to visit any place in India. Mr Ramasamy was, therefore, entitled to visit any place in NE against surrendering the 2 year block of 2010-11 or against the 4 year block of 2010-13.

Assuming that the query related to the concession of converting one 2 year block of Home town LTC into LTC to travel to NER (on the presumption that his home town is different from the place of posting), Mr. Ramasamy has not already availed the special concession of LTC to NER although he had visited Shillong in NE against the 4 year block of 2006-09. Before May 01, 2010 Mr Ramasamy is entitled for LTC to travel to NER by surrendering the 2 year HT block of 2010-11. His 4 year LTC for the block 2010-13 will be in tact.

On the assumption that Mr. Ramasamy is not entitled to air travel (GP being less than 5400) and that the query related to availing the relaxation to travel by air to NER, Mr. Ramasamy already availed the concession against surrender of 2 year block of 2008-09 and is not entitled to claim of the special concession again (to the same city or any other city in NER). He may, however, avail 4 year LTC to any place including North East by the entitled mode of travel.

Now the question is whether Mr. Ramasamy provided all the inputs required to provide a comprehensive and complete reply to his query. Even his confessions that he availed NE LTC and that he belonged to Group B seemed to be an innocent response to the questions posed to him. At no point of time, he informed that he was not eligible to travel by air. His admission of availing NE LTC against a 4 year block may not necessarily mean that he availed the relaxed LTC to NER. It appeared that his query had a stress on permissibility of special LTC to NER against the 2 year block of 2010-11 when he already visited NE during the last 4 year block.

Now it is for Mr. Ramasamy to recapitulate what his query was and confirm whether he could pick out answer to his query.

svsankar
29-12-2009, 06:51 PM
Dear Venkatam Sir,
Thank you very much for the detailed and accurate reply.
regards from
svsankar

Ramasamy59
01-01-2010, 12:48 PM
Sir,
In the NE concession nowhere it is mentioned that a Government Servant can avail NE concession only once .Please clarify me whether I can avail NE concession again to some other place i.e. Gangatak with air facility.

Ramasamy59
01-01-2010, 12:53 PM
I am not entitled for air travel. I enjoyed the air facility on NE concession only as I am a Group B employee. I availed NE concession to Shillong with 2006-09 (4 year block). So I want to know why I can't avail NE concession to some other place i.e. Gangatak by converting my HTC 2010-11. Because no where it is mentioned that Goverment servant can avail only once the NE concession.

tvenkatam
01-01-2010, 01:14 PM
Dear friend,
Every employee is eligible for conversion of ONE block of home town LTC into LTC for destinations in NER and the concession can be availed during the period between 02.05.2008 and 01.05.2010 in terms of DOPT, OM No. 31011/4/2007-Estt.(A) dated 02.05.2008. The Group-B employees can avail airfare from their place of posting to a city in NER.
Your NE Concession to Shillong by air was deemed to have been availed by surrendering one of the home town LTC for the block 2008-09. The special concession extended vide order of 02.05.2008 stands already utilized by you.

Ramasamy59
02-01-2010, 12:57 PM
Dear Friend,
I visited Shillong not using Home Town LTC. I used only four year block i.e. 2006-09. Can I not avail again NE concession to go to Gangatak by converting Home Town LTC for the block year 2010-11?

tvenkatam
02-01-2010, 04:53 PM
Dear Friend,
I visited Shillong not using Home Town LTC. I used only four year block i.e. 2006-09. Can I not avail again NE concession to go to Gangatak by converting Home Town LTC for the block year 2010-11?

Dear Mr. Ramasamy,

If you had visited Shillong (which is not your home town) utilizing 4 year block of 2006-09, your claim would have been allowed by limiting the fare to the entitled class of journey only. You have admitted that you are not entitled for air journey. You have also stated that you availed the NE concession of air journey for the visit of Shillong from Delhi. These being the facts, you could have availed the NE concession only in lieu of a 2 year block, naturally 2008-09. In your application you might have quoted the 4 year block of 2006-09 at the time of availing the facility but your office must have admitted the facility only against the 2 year block of 2008-09 (because the 4 year block is admissible only in lieu of an un availed 2 year block) in terms of the order dated May 02, 2008, enabling you to travel by air.

Ramnath
15-02-2010, 11:04 PM
Anyone please clarify this.
The cut off date 1.5.2010 mentioned is the date on or before which outward journey should commence. Is this correct? Or one should complete the journey (to and fro) to northeast and to the station of work on or before 1.5.2010. Pl. clarify.
Ramnath

tvenkatam
16-02-2010, 07:55 AM
Anyone please clarify this.
The cut off date 1.5.2010 mentioned is the date on or before which outward journey should commence. Is this correct? Or one should complete the journey (to and fro) to northeast and to the station of work on or before 1.5.2010. Pl. clarify.
Ramnath

Dear Friend,

Yes. The onward journey must commence on or before the date of 01.05.2010 unless the concession is extended further.

Ramnath
16-02-2010, 08:27 AM
Thank you sir for your kind reply.
Ramnath

Ramnath
20-02-2010, 06:06 PM
Dear Friend,
I visited Shillong not using Home Town LTC. I used only four year block i.e. 2006-09. Can I not avail again NE concession to go to Gangatak by converting Home Town LTC for the block year 2010-11?

Pl. see the reply given by Gconnect admn here to my query: http://gconnect.in/gc/news/air-travel-to-north-eastern-states-under-ltc.html

Ramnath said on Saturday, February 20, 2010, 10:07

Can a person with Grade pay below 5400 (who is not eligible to travel by air) who has already availed air travel to Northeast once in block year 2006-09, avail LTC again by air to northeast in block year 2010-11 on LTC. Pl. reply sir

Reply

admin Reply:
February 20th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

Yes air travel to NER is permitted in the block year 2010-11 provided you did not avail LTC for 2010-11

tvenkatam
21-02-2010, 10:35 PM
Pl. see the reply given by Gconnect admn here to my query: http://gconnect.in/gc/news/air-travel-to-north-eastern-states-under-ltc.html

Ramnath said on Saturday, February 20, 2010, 10:07

Can a person with Grade pay below 5400 (who is not eligible to travel by air) who has already availed air travel to Northeast once in block year 2006-09, avail LTC again by air to northeast in block year 2010-11 on LTC. Pl. reply sir

Reply

admin Reply:
February 20th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

Yes air travel to NER is permitted in the block year 2010-11 provided you did not avail LTC for 2010-11

Dear Mr. Ramnath,

The reply given by gconnect admin in the context of the specific question posed to them is not supported by the rules prevailing on the subject.

DoPT O.M. No 31011/4/2007 – Estt.(A) dated 02.05.2008 – para 1(iii) states –
“All Central Government employees will be allowed conversion of ONE block of Home Town LTC into LTC for destinations in NER”.
Clarification of DoPT to point No. 5 of its O.M. No. 31011/4/2007 – Estt.(A) dated 14.05.2008, inter alia, states –
“A Government employee can avail LTC to visit NER by conversion of ONE block of home town LTC, if the same is available”.

It is these "Rules" which the DDOs/PAOs follow while admitting the LTC bills of Government employees, not our views or opinions.

snj202003
09-03-2010, 12:06 PM
Unmarried bachelors can take hometown LTC every year. Can they also take LTC to NE by air if they are Gr.B employee with GP less than 5400

badri mannargudi
09-03-2010, 05:38 PM
Unmarried bachelors can take hometown LTC every year. Can they also take LTC to NE by air if they are Gr.B employee with GP less than 5400

No. Those (bachelors) who avail themselves hometown LTC every year are not eligible for All India LTC and they are not eligible for the spl consideration of LTC to N.E states, either..

badri mannargudi
09-03-2010, 05:40 PM
Unmarried bachelors can take hometown LTC every year. Can they also take LTC to NE by air if they are Gr.B employee with GP less than 5400

Dear friend,

No. Those (bachelors) who avail themselves hometown LTC every year are not eligible for All India LTC and they are not eligible for the spl consideration of LTC to N.E states, either.

With regards,
Badri

snj202003
10-03-2010, 09:41 AM
Dear sir
Thanks for reply. But isn't it mentioned in the order that A Government employee can avail LTC to visit NER by conversion of ONE block of home town LTC, if the same is available. Considering this won't a bachelor employee be eligible to avail LTC to NE by converting one of his home town LTC?

monalisa924
18-10-2011, 02:29 PM
Can somebody avail All India LTC to NE by air (by an non entitled officer) even if his/her home town and place of posting is same?

amit2301
18-10-2011, 02:51 PM
Very clear cut reply in most lucid language

monalisa924
18-10-2011, 03:20 PM
The Govt OM on LTC to NE by Air dated 02.05.08 is vague. Nowhere it is mentioned there that LTC to NE by air can ONLY be availed by conversion of Hometown LTC. Instead it days in point no. (i) that Govt has permitted Govt servants to travel by air to NER on LTC and Gr A and B employees are entitled to travel by air from their place of posting or nearest a/p to a city in NE. Doesn't it mean that non entitled officers of Gr B can travel by air to NE under All india LTC?