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    Respected VN Sahib,
    As rightly observed by you it would not be possible for others to build up their cases meticulously. However, generally speaking despite strict instructions issued from time to time by the Government of India in the DOPT about timely holding of DPC meetings, various Ministries/Departments, in violation of the same, delayed holding of DPCs in time. On the other hand these Ministries/Departments meticulously followed the illogical/irrational/illegal policy of the DOPT laying down that retirees are required to be considered at the relevant time when they were due for such consideration while in service and included in the select list if found suitable. These instructions, by implication, also lay down that those included would have no right to notional pensionery benefits without assuming charge of the higher post. The same deprived the concerned of timely promotion and also of pensionery benefits. These instructions about notional pensionery benefits is being reviewed by the DOPT.
    As pointed out by you it is absurd to link up your case with the OA.
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    The Government in the DOPT is yet to take a final view in the matter. We met the
    Secretary, DOPT in the first week of November, 2016 in this regard.
    Gopal Krishan

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    All interested,
    After seeing that the Government is allowing things to drift, the huge number of pensioners are concerned with the matter and also various judgements in this regard, I still feel that there are good number of pensioners who are not aware about the adverse affect of the illegal policy of the Government. Many of them may not be clear as to what to do at this stage.
    I have some suggestion to make in this regard. All Pensioners' Associations must act fast and write about the grievances to Deptt of Personnel and Training, North Block, New Delhi immediately. They must help sufferer pensioners who may not know the situation.Loss per month is considerable and is getting compounded every month.
    Those who can must bring the grievance to the notice of the media so that the same could be high lighted.
    Many MANY very very senior citizens are feeling HARASSED and FRUSTRATED by the inaction on the part of the Government, in view of the fact that in August, 2015, the DOPT had decided to review their stand under which even notional pensionery benefits are not being allowed. Still final decision after the review is awaited by all those affected.
    Gopal Krishan
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    DOPT is more generous to protect the interest of those in service and the current retirees.

    They took care to protect even the interest of POST 112006 PAY BAND SYSTEM RETIREES FOR REVISED PENSION ON LPD BASIS WHEREAS, FOR PRE 112006 it is at the SIXTH CPC MOD PARITY BASIS .HOPE U WILL BE FOLLOWING UP THE DOPT FILES ON THE DELAYED DPC ISSUE.

    MEANWHILE, OUR OA ON HIGH GR PENSION HAS THE NDH In first week of APRIL 2017.

    vnatarajan
    Last edited by vnatarajan; 28-02-2017 at 08:54 PM. Reason: Typo

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    Thanks a lot VN Sir. Of course we are pursuing the matter with the DOPT. One of our friends has requested for inspection of the file to see the action taken after the decision taken by the DOPT to review their earlier policy referred to in my post No. 81 laying down that no benefits to the retirees even if their names are included in the select list(s). In one of the cases the CIC directed the CPIO/Under Secretary concerned to allow inspection of the file to me. Unfortunately the file has not come down to the CPIO for the last more than about six months as such it has not been possible for him to invite us for inspection of the file. He has assured that as soon as the file comes back to him he would inform us for inspection.
    Sir, if it possible for you or your friends, who are also affected by the policy referred to above, to write to the Secretary, DOPT for expediting a decision in the matter, please do that .
    With regards
    Gopal Krishan

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    Reference my post No. 78.
    It is now informally understood that the file has been referred to Department of Expenditure by the DOPT although that was not necessary as the consolidated policy guidelines framed by the DOPT relating to holding of DPCs were issued after consulting that Department also and those instructions did not put any bar on (i)considering the retirees at the relevant time when they were due for such consideration, while in service and (ii) giving them notional promotion and pensionery benefits. It is also understood that a view has been expressed while processing the matter that decision, when taken, in this regard would be made applicable from a prospective date.
    As such I would request Shri VN Sir for writing to the Secretary, Expenditure in this regard on behalf of the Forum he is heading.
    Gopal Krishan

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    Thanks Shri GK sir.
    As I would like to issue it from PENSIONERS' FORUM , CHENNAI ( afgltd to AIFPA, CHENNAI ) , CAN I request Shri GK JI TO EML me a draft appeal with whatever references are to be cited, to make it an effective one, to my EML I'd.
    I SHALL DULY SEND THE APPEAL.
    SHRI GK ALSO MAY HELP IN PURSUING THE APPEAL AT DELHI.
    Thankd
    vnatarajan

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    Respected VN Sir,
    It would be my pleasure to send you a draft appeal to the Finance Secretary. I would do that in a day or two. Of course the same would be based on facts of the case.
    Incidentally, kindly indicate the latest about your case referred to in your post No. 80.
    With regards,
    GK

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    I have already sent a draft to Sh VN Sir. In the meantime DOE has sent their comments to DOPT stating that the DPC matter is for them to decide in the light of the comments received from DPPW and DOLA. Now it is for DOPT to take a call. We have to put pressure on DOPT to expedite a decision.
    The Department of Expenditure in their note referred to the proposal of DOPT for extending the benefit of notional promotion from the date of vacancy to both serving as well as the retired employees.
    Gopal Krishan
    Last edited by Gopal Krishan; 06-07-2017 at 02:20 PM.

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    It is likely that the decision for extending the benefit of notional promotion from the date of vacancy to both serving as well as the retired employees would be applicable from a prospective date. All concerned may note.
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    It is likely that a decision when taken may be applicable to only those who suffer in future. This may be noted.
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    Pensioners Forum, Madras has written to the Secretary, DOPT for expediting the decision in the matter.
    Gopal Krishan

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    Reference post No 85: CPIO, DOPT telephoned to advise that we could come for inspection of the relevant file. Next week we wd do so.
    Gopal Krishan

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    Great SHRI GK JI.
    PL TRY TO GET COPIES OF FILE NOTINGS VITAL FOR OUR OBJECTIVES.
    WHY NOTIONAL PENSIONARY BENEFITS IN THE LEAST CAN NOT BE ACCORDED,BOTH FOR DELAYED DPC AND IAS BATCH PARITY BASED NFFU FINANCIAL BENEFIT OF PENSION WEF 112006.
    vnatarajan
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    Respected Natarajan Sir,
    As back as the year 2010, Department of Legal Affairs advised DOPT that all those whose names are included in the panel(s) are required to be promoted and given pensionery benefits NOTIONALLY. DOE and DPPW have also offered Comments. Now it is for DOPT to take a call.
    Gopal Krishan
    Last edited by Gopal Krishan; 27-10-2017 at 02:28 PM.

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    We inspected the files last week

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    For the information of those (i) who have been writing to me about their cases involving holding of delayed DPCs,(ii) who have been contacting me through mails and (iii) who have been talking to me on phone.
    DOPT referred the matter to UPSC for their comments. The same are still awaited.
    With reference to post at 94 by Shri Vnatarajan Sir, we could not find any thing specifically in those files, we inspected but it was mentioned by the CPIO that some thing was being done on All India Services (AIS) side of the Department relating to the delayed holding of DPCs. There is lot of material available with us with reference to the case, which I would like to share with those interested in the matter.
    I would once again request the Pensioners Forum, Madras to take up the matter at the level of the Minister as the proposal as present being moved by the Department is to give the benefit prospectively. Some officers are also feeling that as the affected are negligible in number we could go ahead on those lines in the matter.
    Gopal Krishan
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    Last edited by Gopal Krishan; 13-01-2018 at 06:00 PM.

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    Respected VN Sir,
    I have separately sent a reply to your email with reference to your case O No. 3590/2015. As you are aware thousands of pensioners are interested in the matter. A good number of them have been writing to me and talking to me also. For their benefit it would be desirable to post various developments in this regard under this thread.
    In your emal your had mentioned that 'even the all other Depts have not objecte?' Could you kindly elucidate the same.
    My case relating to 111946 is listed for the 26th February, 2018. The Govt. sought for permission to file an additional affidavit which was allowed last time.
    With regards,
    Gopal Krishan

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